Thursday, August 6, 2009

Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Nickel-Iron Battery Questions

 

Wish I could find some. John

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Monte Gisborne <emotive@xplornet.com>wrote:

>
>
> John,
>
> I contacted www.beutilityfree.com before posting to this group. The
> principal there demands $200 per hour consulting fees just to answer one or
> two some simple questions about these batteries, even to a potential
> commercial user of his product! No thanks. I give advice freely all day
> long and support the EV community to the best of my abilities without ever
> sticking my hand out. I figured that this discussion group is a valuable
> resource with plenty of professional talent, which from the results I have
> received so far I have been proven correct.
>
> Regarding my batteries, I particularly like Mark Stafford's response and
> will definitely try his idea of recirculating the electrolyte and
> monitoring
> specific gravity along the way. From my research, it should reach between
> 1.20 and 1.25, if it doesn't reach that level I will add KOH flakes as
> required to boost it. It will take time and patience but seems to be a
> solid approach to reviving these batteries. I suppose I could use a small,
> cheap, low-pressure pump as one would use to replace their windshield
> washer
> in their car.
>
> I now own 28 of these Nickel-Iron batteries, 200 amp-hours each, which
> would
> yield an excellent pack for either an electric boat or an electric car. I
> would likely use 20 or 24 of them for either a 120- or 144-volt nominal
> pack. If I am successful in reviving close to their rated 200 amp-hours, a
> 1,320 lb., 144-volt pack at that capacity would make an awesome power
> supply
> and I would still have four left over for potential replacement as required
> along the way. That equates to almost 29 kilowatt-hours of energy storage!
> I'd be content with 20 kilowatt-hours.
>
> I have several Saft Nickel-Cadmium 100 amp-hour STM batteries which I
> purchased used in 1997 and I am still using daily 12 years later. They were
> manufactured in France in 1994. Most are still showing full capacity, I add
> distilled water about twice per year and they soldier on. Twelve are in my
> solar-powered garden tractor (operating both a mower and snowblower) and I
> have 24 in various other electric boats owned by myself and friends. I also
> keep a pack of 12 for a general power supply for testing electric
> outboards,
> etc. I originally had 48 of them in my ElectriFly electric car which I
> competed in the Tour de Sol electric car rally and used as a commuter for
> 50,000 kilometers in total. If I didn't have such success with these
> Ni-Cads I would probably have been less inclined to take a gamble on these
> 15-year old Nickel-Iron batteries, but from everything I've read, they can
> tolerate abuse unheard of in the lead-acid realm.
>
> Monte
>
> Wrong! You can find them here:
>
> http://www.beutilit
> <
> http://www.beutilityfree.com/content/index.php?option=com_content&view=arti
>
> cle&id=44-nickel-iron-batteries-a-lifetime-battery-for-your-off-grid-system-
> or-on-grid-backup&catid=72-Storage&Itemid=129>
>
> yfree.com/content/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=44-nickel-iro
>
> n-batteries-a-lifetime-battery-for-your-off-grid-system-or-on-grid-backup&ca
> tid=72-Storage&Itemid=129
>
> John
>
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>
>
>

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