Monday, February 21, 2011

Re: [Electric Boats] Re: picking a vendor

 

the solder seals the crimp
 



From: Steve Dolan <sdolan@scannersllc.com>
To: "electricboats@yahoogroups.com" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 12:12:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Electric Boats] Re: picking a vendor

 

Are you confusing tinned with soldered?

Steve in Solomons MD

-----Original Message-----
From: electricboats@yahoogroups.com [mailto:electricboats@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 1:05 PM
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Electric Boats] Re: picking a vendor

I have seen no reference in the ABYC standards that recommends both soldering and crimping terminals.

E-10.8.2
Battery cable terminals may be soldered, without being crimped, providing the soldered length is at least 1.5 times the diameter of the cable.

E-11.14.5.7
Solder shall not be the sole means of mechanical connection in any circuit...
EXCEPTION: battery lugs

As I read the standards, mechanical crimping is allowed without soldering, for any applicaiton.

If you can reference the section of the ABYC standards that support you post, I'd very much like to be enlightened.

Regards,
Tom

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Lonner" <lon4@...> wrote:
>
> The ABYC recommends all yacht wire terminations be both mechanically crimped and soldered. The CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) covering commercial vessels with low voltage systems (50 volts or less) also indicates this. My experience over more than 30 years of implementing or repairing marine electrical systems that otherwise were designed correctly, is the failures have 99% been with terminations that were crimped only!
>
> Sailonner
>
> --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@> wrote:
> >
> > yes sadly. Good tools are pricey
> >
> > with a big iron you can crimp then solder fill
> > never use acid core solder on electrical
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: scott <audeojude@>
> > To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 7:40:53 AM
> > Subject: [Electric Boats] Re: picking a vendor
> >
> >  
> > Wow,
> > I looked these up... companies are selling 2/0 dies used for 250.00 each...
> > didn't even look at the cost of the crimper itself after seeing that :) Wish I
> > could always afford the right tool for the job but sometimes you just have to
> > make do.
> > scott
> >
> > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Ã, We sawed crimp connections in half at work. We were evaluating tools made by
> >
> > > American Pamcor (AMP)
> > > The copper cold flowed together and was gas tight - antioxidant would be
> > > contraindicated in this application..The connections were excellent.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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