And difficult to talk the wife into living on for a couple of years...
--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <boat_works@...> wrote:
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> A pontoon boat like that would certainly be more easily driven through the water than the type of houseboat that I had envisioned.
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> That appears to be much smaller than 40 x 14.
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> -Tom
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> -- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Don Parsons" <tdparsons@> wrote:
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> > This houseboat seems to be along the lines of what is being
> > discussed.
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> > http://www.ohlone.edu/core/spotlight/2009spring/20090409jondegallier.html
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> > It is a minimalist approch but seems to work for this guy.
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> > Don
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> > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <boat_works@> wrote:
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> > > I agree that EP is very inexpensive to operate, that was a big part of my choice to go electric on my launch. But EP done right on a 40' boat is expensive up front, and this conversion (especially considering the low HP being discussed) is not a slam dunk success, unlike some other configurations.
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> > > I haven't cruised those waters, but I'll bet there are times that power that is adequate for two or three knots might not be enough in adverse conditions.
> > >
> > > The houseboats they use most around here on Puget Sound are the Fairliners and Cruise-a-Homes, both of which are highly powered (twin V-8s), with a lot of windage, and are not meant for efficient cruising at slow speeds.
> > >
> > > But sometimes you need to go with the hull you already have, and as long as the drawbacks are understood, if it sounds good to you, go for it.
> > >
> > > There is nothing quite like running EP. I know you'll enjoy it.
> > >
> > > -Tom
> > >
> > > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, James Sizemore <james@> wrote:
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> > > > And the first months fuel bill will put him in the red. ICE are cheap to install and seriously expensive to run, he says he does not mind going slow, if he can handle 2 or 3 knots, he can travel for next to free after the solar upfront costs. As he plans to do the loop I'm guessing he can make money now to pay for upfront cost, or save it for fuel cost. Either way the install price of a ICE is only a fraction of the running cost.
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> > > > On Feb 11, 2011, at 7:46 PM, "Tom" <boat_works@> wrote:
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> > > > > So, what is the budget for this electric houseboat conversion?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is several thousand dollars of solar really going to fit the owner'
> > > > > s plans? And a maybe a large diesel genset?
> > > > >
> > > > > We started with a plan to use salvaged golf cart components, which suggests that the owner is resourceful and thrifty.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'D bet that installing an appropriate (successful) EP system is going to cost significantly more than a proven ICE system.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Tom
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Eric" <ewdysar@> wrote:
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> > > > > > Keep in mind that at 40 pounds a piece, the suggested 16 solar panels will weigh almost 650 pounds, not including any mounting hardware or cabling and all of the weight is up high.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The other suggestion of a low "euro-style" canal barge instead of an American RV-style houseboat, sounds good to me. It lends itself to this type of solar intensive installation. Again this points us back to Dragonfly
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.slowboatcruise.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > as working example of how one can less dependent on fossil fuels onboard. Given the reported performance of other fixed installation solar panels, getting 50% the rated capacity seems to be about as good as it gets. So, on a good day (in the middle of the day) you might be able to get about 1500W (2hp) going towards your batteries/drive system.
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> > > > > > Just some extra considerations....
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> > > > > > Fair winds,
> > > > > > Eric
> > > > > > Marina del Rey, CA
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> > > > > > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, James Sizemore <james@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Bill,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You will want all the solar cells your boat can hold, Even one solar cell would charge any size battery bank as long as you gave it enough time, the more solar cells you have the faster they will charge your bank, If you have the space put a 3kw array on the roof. You might not even need the batteries at lower speeds say around 2-3 knots. This kit has 16 cells, Measure your roof see how many you could fit:
> > > > > > > http://sunelec.com/index.php?main_page=pv_systems&id=1248
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for the motor I would buy the biggest 48 volt setup you can find:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.electricyacht.com/electric-yacht-products/electric-yacht-system.html
> > > > > > > or if you want to try something totally untested:
> > > > > > > http://www.greenmotorsport.com/green_motorsport/products_and_services/3,1,388,17,27462.html
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> > > > > > > On Feb 10, 2011, at 7:35 PM, bill garrison wrote:
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> > > > > > > > Hi Myles,
> > > > > > > > You seem to know the concepts and numbers pretty well. So, my next question is about solar vs wind. How many panels would I need to recharge a 48 volt battery bank? Does a wind turbine create drag against what your propeller is doing. Also, since my 3.1HP motor is too small to push a 40' x 14' houseboat around the Great Loop, what size electric motor would be appropriate for the taskSpeed is not a major concern. I am more interested in range. I have been spending hours on the web searching for answers only to find sales info rather than answers. I appreciate having people like you who are willing and patient with helping newbies like me? Please forgive my ignorance.
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> > > > > > > > William A. Garrison
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