Sunday, October 25, 2009

FUEL SAFETY MESSAGES (was: RE: [Electric Boats] DC Telecom Generator)

 

Rob J.-

 

Okay, you’ve made your safety point several times now.  And we appreciate that.  But please try not to belabor the point and further hijack this thread.

I really don’t want to put more people on this list back on moderated status, but will do so if I have to.

This thread was about a DC Telecom Generator---something many are interested in, despite its being almost off-topic itself.

This list is about electric boating, not fuels and fuel safety.

You’ve given good advice and it’s appreciated.

If you’d like to start a safety discussion regarding liquid fuels, go ahead, but please do so on another list.

 

Everyone else: Please don’t respond to these safety message posts.

 

Thanks-

 

-Moderator, Electric Boats

 

From: electricboats@yahoogroups.com [mailto:electricboats@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Johnson
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 10:20 PM
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] DC Telecom Generator

 

 

Graham , just give it a lot of thought.

If you must use a volatile liquid go right over your procedures and try and elliminate any situations that may involve a risk of spillage or leakage .

Your insurance company has already assessed the risks.

Last year there was a horrible explosion on a boat in NSW .

One minute the proud owner was showing off his boat to his parents , the next minute people were trying to fish their burnt bodies out of the water.

The owner survived , his parents and boat didn't.

Its a bad combination , please , be careful !.

Regards Rob J. 

--- On Mon, 26/10/09, grahammcg <grahammcglashan@gmail.com> wrote:


From: grahammcg <grahammcglashan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] DC Telecom Generator
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Received: Monday, 26 October, 2009, 11:30 AM

Rob,
I'm planning to use electric drives on my F-41 cat. As it's a cruising cat, I don't want to have 2 types of fuel onboard. Although there are diesel outboards available for the dink (& electric outboards!), practicality says gas outboards and a Honda 2000
gas generator onboard, mean simpler/lighter/easily serviced systems (and gasoline is available anywhere, unlike diesel)
My insurance company may not agree, but WTH?
IMHO
Graham

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Rob Johnson <dopeydriver@...> wrote:
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> Why not source a diesel powered generator , and eliminate the risk of using a volatile liquid on a boat ?.
> Safety should be paramount , and petrol and LPG are inherently unsafe , on a boat.
> There are plenty of purpose built diesel powered marine generators on the market.
> Regards Rob J.
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> --- On Mon, 26/10/09, James Sizemore <james@...> wrote:
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> From: James Sizemore <james@...>
> Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] DC Telecom Generator
> To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Monday, 26 October, 2009, 7:17 AM
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> Because they were listed as "DC Telecom Generators" I assume they do self start to charge remote site battery packs,  but if not it still would be a nice as an emergency power source incase of  battery pack total failure. 
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> At a total weight of 50 pounds, I seriously doubt the described generator is self starting, if that is what you mean by cutting on via an external monitor. I wouldn't expect any controls that are more sophisticated than what the Honda generators provide in their 120v AC versions.
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> For me, size, weight and output are higher priorities than cost. Available wattage is the important factor, amps and volts can be adjusted as needed fairly easily. Like another response in this thread, the 120v AC generator may be more useful due to it's applicability to other tasks, especially if there is an appropriately sized, sophisticated charger already on board.
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> Fair winds,
> Eric
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> --- In electricboats@ yahoogroups. com, James Sizemore <james@> wrote:
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> > I would also be interested in a reasonable priced DC generator in the
> > 48v range. Did they have any battery monitoring circuitry built in?
> > Or where they cut on and off via an external monitor?
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> > On Oct 22, 2009, at 10:12 PM, marselectric1 wrote:
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> > > I just got back from the Canton Fair in China where I found a
> > > supplier of Gasoline DC Telecom Generators. There is one that looks
> > > like a Honda Portable Inverter Generator. The unit is rated at 1.6
> > > kw, weighs 50 pounds, and it looks to be very quiet (variable speed
> > > type). The output is 52.5 VDC at 30.5 Amps....
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> > > John Fiorenza
> > > Mars Electric LLC
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