Myles:
Thanks for your concern, I tried to give Kevin every opportunity to do the right thing, but he didn't. Hopefully I can recover my money through my credit card. If not I'll have to take legal action.
Scott
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> Scott-
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>
> I also am sorry to hear this.
>
> While I would generally say let's hope this all gets made right for you, it
> sounds like you have waited a long time for that outcome.
>
> It certainly isn't right to be sent product AFTER asking for full refund
> instead of the product, whether or not it was new.
>
> I've heard almost exactly the same story recently from someone on the EV
> Discussion List recently also, regarding a different supplier.
>
> Bottom line for folks is to do your homework and even then, there are no
> guarantees as you have seen.
>
>
>
> The Re-E-Power founder was on this list a couple years ago when he first
> came up with his propulsion pods.
>
> After several self-promotional emails I put him on moderated status and
> warned him (as I do others on this list now) not to post to this list
> unsubstantiated claims and almost daily performance test trial trips on his
> customer's boats. This is not a sounding board or focus group for
> manufacturers, dealers, researchers or marketers! Eventually Kevin left
> this list and I think started his own.more power to him. He was congenial
> throughout. As moderator of this list, the line is crossed when a business
> member of this group USES this list for their own gain regularly and
> especially when they diss the competition in unfair comparisons and don't
> provide publicly reviewable information about their product. This was
> somewhat the case with Re-E-Power and I warned Kevin at least a couple of
> times about it. I've also done the same most recently with Arby and his
> Advanced Marine Electric Propulsion (AMEP) brushless motor/controller. I'm
> all for supporting and celebrating good new products. Heck, I posted many
> reports noting my satisfaction with the Etek brush motor over the years.
> But when someone comes on this list and nearly immediately is promoting
> their new product, says it is available at a certain website for months and
> it isn't, does apples to oranges sea trial comparisons and raves on this
> list about it, then gets their first customers (often with comp'd
> hardware---i.
> it's just not right.
>
> And it can be funny how blatant this can be. One gentleman arrived on this
> list merely a couple months ago asking for help repowering his sailboat and
> claiming to know nothing about the options or electric. We didn't hear from
> him much again until a mere 4-5 weeks later this summer when he posts to
> this list the great performance his sailboat is getting with the AMEP motor
> and then after the glowing report, begins promoting the motor and signs the
> email as the General Manager of AMEP. It's kind of funny.
>
>
>
> So let this not just be a lesson for buyers to beware.
>
> But to you dealers, manufacturers, promoters, installers and researchers who
> would use this list for your personal gain or self interest---we can be be
> your best friends and promoters or your worst nightmare. There are
> thousands on this list and very few have their posts moderated. If your
> customer isn't satisfied, I might not be able to stop their post to this
> forum.
>
> But if I find out that that alleged disgruntled customer wasn't really a
> customer, but really a shill for another manufacturer, and trust me, I will
> find out---you won't benefit from this strategy.
>
>
>
> Again, I'm sorry to hear of this and let's keep this forum useful and
> truthful.
>
>
>
> -Myles Twete, moderator, Electric Boats
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