Nope - no check valve. There should be a "loop" of the hose going up before it goes out, but there shouldn't be any check valve.
Also, while watching it cycle, I see a little bit of water slosh in the bilge, but it's maybe 1/8" - definitely not enough to trip the switch. No water goes out, no water comes back in. The side of the boat where the water should exit is bone dry.
As far as I can tell, the switch is just tripping over and over for no good reason.
From: "'Sdolan' sdolan@scannersllc.com [electricboats]" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 9:02 AM
Subject: RE: [Electric Boats] Bilge pumps?
John,
Do you have a check valve in line to the discharge?
The short cycling sounds like water is flowing slowly back from the discharge through the check valve diaphragm and activating the pump causing a short cycle, as long as you know your boat isn't leaking water that quickly I'd check that.
Steve In Solomons MD
Lagoon 410 SE
From: electricboats@yahoogroups.com [mailto:electricboats@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 9:42 AM
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Electric Boats] Bilge pumps?
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 9:42 AM
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Electric Boats] Bilge pumps?
This is a little off-topic, but at least it still is an important part of a boat, and still is electric...
Has anyone researched bilge pumps, and more specifically bilge pump switches lately?
I need to replace one, as it is constantly cycling (about every 2.5 min, it cycles on, but not more than a second, and may repeat that up to 8-10 times, then silent for another several minutes).
From reading reviews on Amazon - it sounds like NONE of the bilge pump switches out there are very reliable. I checked other sites for reviews (West Marine, Overtons, etc. - but either they had no reviews at all, or didn't have many).
There are several different types of float switches - mechanical microswitch, mercury switch (I'd be fine with that, but they don't seem to be around anymore?), and fully electronic.
The bilge pump in my boat was a Rule-Mate 1100. In the instructions, it mentions that it has automatic circuitry to detect an error due to trash in the pump. If it detects that the pump has been triggered, but no water is going o ut (sensing the load on the motor) - then it turns off the pump, waits for about 2.5 min, and then cycles the pump again. Once the debris is cleared, it should go back to normal operation.
The sensor is also "smart" enough to detect if you have dumped mostly oil in your bilge, and won't turn the pump on in that case, to prevent dumping the oil overboard. This all sounds great - if it works. Though the reviews for this pump indicate that it is not 100% reliable.
The above "auto detect" operation could explain some of my cycling, but I wouldn't expect it to cycle 6-8 times...
I'm tempted to go to a separate pump and traditional float switch - but am a little concerned, as all the switches with many reviews will have some that indicate the switch either sticks on, or sticks up, or fails off and floods the boat.
Any thoughts, recommendations?
John
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