Saturday, September 22, 2012

Re: [Electric Boats] Re: electricity from heat

 

If they had been ceramic coated they would not corrode. But if they are big a little rust wont hurt.
What I thought would be free energy is: you replace the cast iron burner thing on the stove with a new pot holder, a thermopile.
You are going to cook anyway and you set your pan on a pile shaped like a ring. The couples would be 3/8 rod and sit in the middle of your burner fire.
 
Will Rogers quote: "Stupidity got us into this – why can't it get us out?" 


From: Arby Bernt <arbybernt@yahoo.com>
To: "electricboats@yahoogroups.com" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Re: electricity from heat

 
Lets not forget the narsty corrosive environment of the ocean either!
I spent several years testing thermo-electric generators. They all developed corrosion after just a few days operating at stp. 

Be Well,
Arby

On Sep 22, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@yahoo.com> wrote:

 
Before the solid state stuff thermopiles were made with dissimilar metals, thermocouples. They make very small voltages, millivolts.
I never persued it but my immediate impression was the thermocouples need to be rebar not wire to get their resistance down. Millivolts get eaten quickly by milliohms. The advantages of thermocouples is higher operating temperature and since they are just metal they are nearly indestructible..
An inverter would be used to step up the voltage using very low resistance FETs
 
Will Rogers quote: "Stupidity got us into this – why can't it get us out?" 


From: james_c_rock <jcelrock@hotmail.com>
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 8:24 AM
Subject: [Electric Boats] Re: electricity from heat

 
NASA has used radioisotope thermal generators (RTG) since the 1960s.
Peltier Effect, Seebeck Effect and Thompson Effect Generators have been built and some combine the effects.
So far as I can tell efficiencies are in the range 5% to 10%, whereas solar panels are in the range of 15% to 30%. Thus solar cells continue to dominate this market.
Lots of information, most of it readable in Wikipedia under thermoelectric power, thermoelectricity and many related jump terms.

HAVE FUN


--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "mkriley48" <mkriley48@...> wrote:
>
> wow that is way over my head. do you have any links to people actually doing it?
>
> --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "mkriley48" <mkriley48@> wrote:
> >
> > can you give some specifics or links?
> > mike
> >
> >
> > >>>Solar is a good choice
> > because a meter squared of collector area in clear skys is good
> > for 1000w of heat. When at rest solar can top the batteries. When
> > in motion any heat source will do including a stove top burner.
> > The system could be referred to as a solid state heat engine.
> >





__._,_.___
Recent Activity:
.

__,_._,___

No comments:

Post a Comment