Saturday, January 15, 2011

Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Repowering a 65 motor sailer

 

If I could run for 8hr between bat and gen set I would love it but so far I haven't seen those numbers

--- On Sat, 1/15/11, GNHBus@aol.com <GNHBus@aol.com> wrote:

From: GNHBus@aol.com <GNHBus@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Repowering a 65 motor sailer
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 1:08 PM

 

Now we're talking BMS. (Battery Management System), what batteries ? If one could motor 8 hrs on BMS, then Genset for 2, and so on, would that suffice?  
 
In a message dated 1/15/2011 6:32:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, dopeydriver@yahoo.com.au writes:
 

Tom , may I ask of you please , could you tell me what Nigel Calder concluded as to hybrid efficiency , in his articles ?,
I haven't had the opportunity to read them.
Regards Rob J.


From: Tom <boat_works@yahoo.com>
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 15 January, 2011 8:29:58 PM
Subject: [Electric Boats] Re: Repowering a 65 motor sailer



THanks Nicolas, I understand that you don't need to run under battery power alone, so you won't need a huge battery bank for propulsion.

You will, however, need a much larger genset. I don't see how a large diesel genset powering an electric motor will help you meet your design goals of minimizing spares, serviceabilty in remote areas, efficiency (refer to Nigel Calder's articles on hybrids in Professional Boatbuilder) and reliability. I do admit that removing and replacing the current 160HP ICE with another model engine will be a big project.

Don't get me wrong, I love electric boats. I run one, and wouldn't ever change it to ICE, but some applications make more sense than others.

I'd be happy to be proven wrong, and look forward to following this discussion.

-Tom

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Nicholas Oberzire <ibles_world@...> wrote:
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> Tom the Gen Set would be running when the motors are running, but its only 12.5kw so pulling 60k out for a motor wouldnt be long before I had batterys would be defeated, the motors need to be run hours on end and not just to back it up on a dock, it is a sail boat, but when the seas are rough I be motoring more than a bank of batteries can hold
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> From: Tom <boat_works@...>
> Subject: [Electric Boats] Re: Repowering a 65 motor sailer
> To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 5:03 PM
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