Thursday, November 11, 2010

[Electric Boats] Station keeping Azipod -- was Re: Multidirectional Docking Electric Motors

 

Also bear in mind that the batteries will also be helping.. it won't be solely the role of the turbine to hold station. The idea is not to necessarily be perpetual, but give a couple of hours of hangout time without having to worry about setting anchor.

It was more of a whim than a necessity. :-)

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Steamboat Willie <stmbtwle@...> wrote:
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> Well sometimes anchoring isn't an option, expecially when you want to MOVE.   Consider a wagon, with a windmill geared to the wheels.  If the gearing is low enough, the windmill will turn the wheels and push the wagon along, even upwind.  The difference is that wagon wheels normally don't SLIP.  To convert this contraption to a boat you're going to need a BIG prop with really low pitch to get absolute minimal slip.  And getting the correct gearing between the turbine and the prop would be a challenge.  But it HAS been done:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKqC5JsurOk&feature=related
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzGCYaJbf0A&feature=related
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> A side benefit would be that as the vessel began to move into the wind, the apparent wind velocity would increase, providing more power, and hence more speed.  So the faster you go, the faster you go, until hull
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> Just how practical it would be is another discussion altogether.  I can just imagine the boat in a seaway with all that weight aloft...
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> From: danbollinger <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Electric Boats] Station keeping Azipod -- was Re: Multidirectional Docking Electric Motors
> To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 10:56 AM
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