4' is pretty narrow for a 30' boat; I'd think 5.5 or 6' might be better. A 5:1 beam to length ratio is still quite slim.
15 mph would require a lot of power. 72v x 100 amps will drive a 30' 3000# boat 9.5 mph. My 'rule of thumb' formula suggests it will take 4 times that power to go 15 mph. Not very practical to pay for a 400 amp controller and a 40 hp motor when the boat would drain the 440ah bank in 20-30 minutes at that power.
It's better to optimize the boat for a practical cruising speed. There is a unique prismatic coefficient (shape of the hull under water) for each speed/length ratio. This gives the greatest possible range.
Denny
----- Original Message -----From: reduSent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:42 AMSubject: Re: [Electric Boats] electric prop and re-chargingThank you Denny for these interesting reference data!
However, some questions remain:
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"long narrow hull"? It would be essential to learn, how narrow, as a really narrow means low drag at speeds higher than "hull speed". Perhaps "narrow" was here app. 6 feet at waterline?
I am planning an e-boat hull of 30' * 4' and a maximum speed up to 15mph (100A*72V). Batteries weight at keel line should give a good stability for this only 4' wide hull? Tested using a model hull. What du you think about a 4' hull?
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A long and narrow hull may be wet inside? Seas may come in like in VolvoOcean sail boats? Or did you learn better while experimenting with your WolfEboat?
redu
dennis wolfe wrote:Tom,I don't think your requirements are too 'out there'. Seems to me there are just a few constraints on your project. 1) You must be willing to accept slow speed and maybe even no speed (i.e. don't go) when adverse wind or current conditions occur. 2) Recharging from shore power must be convenient because that's the energy source that's cheap and quiet. All the other options, when sized to be practical for every-day use are either very expensive or bring with them the downsides of ICE power. Plus most of them would work better driving the prop directly instead of the daisy chain of prime mover to generator to battery to motor to prop.I could see a long narrow light hull ( a catamaran would be even better) optimized for a speed/length ratio of perhaps 0.6. A boat with a 30' waterline length, weighing 3000# with (16) 220ah 6v batteries could go 140 miles at 4 mph.(11 amps at 48v) 100 amps would give 8 mph for 22 miles. Total battery weight would be about 1000# and cost maybe $3500 for top of the line AGMs. Maybe 1/3 that for wet batteries. You could cut the bank size in half in you were happy with less E range or more reliance on a gen set.A 2kw quiet generator like Honda EU2000 ($900, 50#) hooked to a 1.5 kw battery charger would drive the boat about 5 mph with no battery drain. You'd want the generator out in the open for cooling and gasoline safety. They are not marine rated and not safe in an enclosed area. They are very quiet though, I'd say as quiet as a little four stroke outboard. It could recharge your 80% depleted bank in about 15 hours.You stated you don't want a 'regular' sailboat with aux E power. Just about anything will sail down wind, though, and that's what I'd set up, making the rig easy to strike when not sailing. A 150 sq ft balance lug rig would have spars short and light enough to be taken down and stowed without any mechanical advantage (build them hollow) and would perform well off the wind. You don't want any foils sailing down wind and a simple lee board would give you a modest reaching ability.Denny Wolfe
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