Saturday, November 28, 2009

Re: [Electric Boats] Bearings and power transmission

 

My current thinking is to set up the old Hurth type gear box with the MARS motor directly coupled to it. I like this solution because it will be easier to mount the whole deal, it can go on the existing engine beds. I like the moving parts contained, I know a cage or other cover on the belts could be set up but the enclosed gear box is still a safer set-up. The robust mechanicals of the gear box too I think will be more durable and reliable than a belt set up.

If the coupling of the motor to the gear box is too difficult or there is some other problem I won't have any problem going to a belt set up, its certainly a very good solution. I just happen to have this gearbox already, the belt set-up would be cheaper if building from scratch.

David

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:32 AM, kendall bonner <merc2dogs@hotmail.com> wrote:
 

Mostly it's the overall size and weight of the package, chain drive can be built with 30 speeds (10r+3f sprockets) in a very light and compact package. A belt with the same power transfer abilities in a single speed, needs an assembly roughly the same size and weight as the chain drive for 10.

I put 400 miles a week on bicycles, and wouldn't think about a belt drive on any of mine (8 at last count), but feel cogged belts do make a lot of sense in a boat application where room is available (and gear changes aren't required or can easily use a gearbox). They are quieter and would last longer in a wet environment.

 Only issue with a belt is that they have to be carefully sized, so replacements for each belt has to be carried, with chains as long as they have the same link size you can buy in bulk and cut your own. Belts are also not tolerant of alignment errors, a chain will handle errors that would shred a belt in minutes without a problem. (they will have slightly reduced life, and a bit more noise though)

Ken. 

> To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> From: matthew@acfr.usyd.edu.au
> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:18:56 +1100


> Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Bearings and power transmission
>
> danbollinger wrote:
> > Cogged/synchronous belts are in the 96-99% efficiency range, so don't discount them. They are lighter, and don't need lubrication.
> >
> >
> Cyclists are still largely using chains and a mechanism to bodily rip
> the chain from one cog to another to change gear as the efficiency of
> the simple belt/chain transmission/gear system is hard to beat.
> The chain systems are in the high 90s% efficient. The hub gear systems
> tend to be some what lower - mid 80s to mid 90s% efficient.
> Like our e-boats, cyclists want maximum power transfer with the minimum
> of transmission losses.
>
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