How do you guys get me started?...
>- we'll not be around to see what future folk decide about things
>we've written into the records, and decide must have been an error.
There were gold electroplated artifacts found in Egytian tombs. They
were discarded - they had to be "fakes" since everybody "knew"
electricity and electroplating were only discovered recently. Trouble
is, they've now discovered remnants of some sort of batteries used by
the ancient Babylonians... they probably did the electroplating for
the Egyptians with those.
Oops, where did those artifacts go?
>- the biggest critics used to be ill educated know alls, and then we
>got education for the masses, (well in developed countries anyway)
>an now i think you'll find the biggest critics are those 'who know
>better'.
When Galileo looked through his telescope at Jupiter and found four
new planets orbiting it in 1610, the university professors said that
was ridiculous. Planets don't circle around other planets! And they
refused to look through the telescope, saying it wasn't reliable for
looking at heavenly things.
But I don't think any generation since then has doubted that Jupiter
has satellites.
>- so you're overly kind when you say "scientists and engineers
>who have arrived at their opinions by way of research and
>experience." i number amongst them and have worked with and employed
>both over many years and if you look at company surveys and research
>conducted, both classes of people invent little but both specialise
>in perfecting the work of others.
In January 2005 we (NASA/ESA/Earth) parachuted a space probe
(Huygens) to the surface of Saturn's orbiting planet Titan, where it
splashed down in a couple of inches of liquid methane right on the
top of a submerged 'dune'. (I studied the images, returns and
articles for about 2-3 years.) All the evidence says there's liquid
(methane) and profuse aquatic plant life at the landing site. Since
then ongoing SAR radar images from the Cassini spacecraft (still
orbiting Saturn) show the whole sphere is heavily forested with trees
that dwarf Earth's trees in the low gravity. Compare with Google
Earth: they look like forests of trees and like no other type of
landscape.
They pulled off this complex mission successfully and landed the
Huygens and got back 1/2 of the data from it - Kudos! - but... So
far, the scientists most involved still claim it was dry where
Huygens landed (the so-called "raw" butchered images, accelerometer
and GCMS data notwithstanding), that the things on and above the
ground with stems are "ice rocks" (contrary "organic" GCMS data
notwithstanding), and are still trying to figure out what the trees
are. Mostly they still mouth the same theories about what Titan is
like that they had before the mission took place, regardless of the
data. Lately they decided lakes/seas of liquid methane in upper
latitudes are real but the tidal, duney seas in the tropics still
aren't, and they say there may be microorganisms because of hydrogen
gas variation with altitude. But they steadfastly refuse to see a
verdant world thumbing its nose in their faces.
Today you don't get put under house arrest for seeing worlds orbiting
Jupiter. But if you mention the word "life" on any quasi-serious
space discussion list except on an abstract theoretical basis to do
with some other solar system, you get booted off it. Any number of
quoted references to findings by others to support the case are
deemed to be "taken out of context" and disallowed, and all your
writings are deemed "pseudo-science". If you can't dispute the words
and ideas, a blanket discrediting of the author works well enough.
My main "Living Titan" web site... http://www.saers.com/recorder/craig/titan/
Cheers,
Craig
http://www.TurquoiseEnergy.com/
Victoria BC
| Reply via web post | Reply to sender | Reply to group | Start a New Topic | Messages in this topic (84) |
No comments:
Post a Comment