Saturday, September 26, 2009

Re: [Electric Boats] Power Consumption for Minn Kota Riptide 50 & MotorGuide 54

 

Hi George,
--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, George Kuck <chesapeake410@...> wrote:
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> Hello
> I would suggest you use 6 volt batteries (two in series for 12 volts), gulf cart size are readily available.� You could use a total of four batteries two for each motor or a single series/parallel bank of four.��

Excellent idea, and one that I had forgotten for some reason (probably age though).

This boat has plenty of room for batteries in the engine compartment, which is completely empty.

> US battery Co. has a good selection and many distributors.�You can also get 6 volt gulf cart batteries at Sam's club but I expect the US batteries are better quality.�Check out there web site and contact local distributor to see what sizes they stock.� You may get better price on ones that are in stock�than ordering other sizes.� They tend to stock specific sizes that are used in gulf carts.
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> I have used US battery for electric car with much larger bank than you will need.�

George, I would like to learn all that I can about your battery bank. My long-term plan is to build maintain two banks on this boat, each with enough capacity to run the boat during the amount of time required to recharge the other bank using solar and wind. Right now my plan involves building roll-out racks in the engine compartment that will allow for easy maintenance and, when needed, replacement. I believe this will be a good distribution of weight and that it is the safest method of installation for this vessel.

So, do you have drawings, photographs, technical information and so on?

And thanks again for the response and the links!

> They are desinged for deep discharge.��The 6 volt batteries�will hold up much better than using 12 volt batteries.
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> http://www.usbattery.com/usb_productline_main.html
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> http://www.usbattery.com/usb_index.html
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> http://www.usbattery.com/usb_config.html
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> Happy sailing,
> George Kuck
> Chestertown,Md.�����
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> --- On Fri, 9/25/09, cal29brad <bradley.a.bates@...> wrote:
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> From: cal29brad <bradley.a.bates@...>
> Subject: [Electric Boats] Power Consumption for Minn Kota Riptide 50 & MotorGuide 54
> To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 5:12 PM
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> Hello to All,
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> I have a MotorGuide 54 that has these specifications:
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> 12 Volts 0.34 Kwatts
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> I also have a Minn Kota Riptide 30 with these recommendations & specification:
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> 12 Volts
> 105 Ampere/Hour Battery
> "... your 12 volt motor with draw 1.0 ampere/hour ... for each pound of thrust produced when the motor is running on high."
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> By my calculations these work out to:
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> MotorGuide 54: (0.34 * 1000) / 12 = 28.33 ampere / hour
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> Minn Kota 50: 1.0 * 50 = 50.0 ampere / hour
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> Do those numbers look correct to all of you? The units and the pounds of thrust they produce are pretty similar, which makes me suspect the somewhat significant difference in the ampere/hour ratings.
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> All enlightening efforts are greatly appreciated. I plan to use these two units to move a Cal29 sailboat about six to ten miles across (or down) Boca Ciega Bay to downtown St. Petersburg Florida early next week, and need to calculate what size batteries I should get. The boat is not refitted yet, so I need to jury-rig all of this, including battery locations, cabling, breakers, and so on.
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> I have found a local firm that has what appear to be 85 amp/hr (they "rate" them thus: 205 minutes at 25 Amps each) 12 Volt deep cycle marine batteries currently on sale for about $60.00 each. Again, according to my calculations, three of those should give me either 2.5 hours (using the Minn Kota) to 4.5 hours (with the MotorGuide) of full speed motor use with about 50% battery consumption. Does that look correct?
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> Thanks much in advance,
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> Brad Bates
> Play Mate
> St. Petersburg, FL
> (I am dangerous with a calculator)
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