Friday, July 22, 2011

[Electric Boats] Re: two banks

 

Ben,
Thanks for the information.

Mark,
I guess that answers your question - not as bad as I thought. For a 48 volt pack, it still might be significant current, but it looks like it is self limiting.

Pat

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Ben Okopnik <ben@...> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:42:54AM -0000, greenpjs04 wrote:
> > Hi Mark,
> > Yes, you would have one bank at 200 ah. But, be very careful doing
> > that. Make sure both banks are at the same state of charge before
> > turning on both switches. If one bank is fully charged and the other
> > is discharged, a huge amount of current will flow from the charged
> > bank to the other. There is nothing to control how much current flows
> > other than the internal resistance of the batteries and wiring. That
> > is not a good situation.
>
> You know, that's a common misconception. Fortunately for us all, it's
> not true - otherwise, we'd be wrecking batteries constantly, every time
> we threw the battery switch from '1' or '2' to 'All'. :) You see,
> there's a number of factors that mitigate against that high inrush
> current: first off, batteries - at least lead acid batteries, which are
> what I'm most familiar with - don't take up a huge amount of current
> initially; there's a "buffer efffect" that takes place when you first
> start charging, with the batteries being progressively more capable of
> taking a higher charge current as they warm up. Second, in order to
> charge a battery, the input voltage needs to be ~.2v/cell higher than
> the nominal cell voltage (given average temperatures) - i.e., if you
> want to start charging a battery that is at 12v, you need to supply
> 13.2v (nice chart from WindSun here:
> http://www.windsun.com/pictures/Charge_voltage.gif). Third, batteries
> can take a "surface charge" rather quickly - meaning that their voltage
> will rise before they accept any appreciable current - and without a
> voltage differential, current just won't flow. (If you postulate a high
> initial load, the "high" battery's voltage will also drop under that
> load - reducing the differential even further.) Lots of factors working
> against this, you see.
>
> I recently ran across an _excellent_ site of a BMS manufacturer - some
> British company (I don't recall the name at the moment) - that went over
> this in detail; their analysis for the worst case they could come up
> with was right around 21 amps for the inrush current, rapidly tapering
> off. Not exactly a world-shaking event. :)
>
>
> --
> Ben Okopnik
> -=-=-=-=-=-
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