Monday, February 17, 2014

RE: [Electric Boats] Diesel Electric?

 

Hopefully your motor issue will not be a big thing but here’s some thoughts on the conversion. Not tech. stuff because there are others who are better at the math then me.

 

First off I’m running a bank of bats at 144V. I see no issue with this as long as you’re not dropping wrenches and such across the terminals. The real “ominous” voltage is 72V (Others claim not me). Running higher voltages isn’t a problem and is more desirable in larger boats and you drop Amperes down to the motors also decreasing wire size. At 7 knots I’m at 40A to each motor. If I was at 48V I’d be at around 160A.

 

If you’re going to install a genset in the future pull both motors and run everything off of it. Much simpler install and you would have the power for the inverter to 120V AC. Say around 21KW Genny. If you’re going to run all the time under power don’t even worry about a large bank of bats. You don’t have sails so the motors will have to do all the pushing. Have a decent house bank for anchoring and go from there. This is how many large ships run. I’m sure converting an existing motor to a genset will cost quite a bit. Sell them off and go for it.

 

I’m just throwing thoughts out there but my system works. I have 1 motor to worry about (genset) and use a hell of a lot less fuel (if any) doing it this way. Of course this is a sailing Cat not a power boat.   

 

Steve in Solomons MD

 


From: electricboats@yahoogroups.com [mailto:electricboats@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cirejay@hotmail.com
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Subject: [Electric Boats] Diesel Electric?

 




 

 

 

I recently purchased a Gulfstar 36 trawler.  It currently is powered by twin Perkins 4.236 engines, each with a nominal HP of 85.  One engine developed some, at this time, unknown problem which I will have diagnosed in the spring, if it ever arrivesL.

 

The hull is the same as their motorsailer and as such is easily driven.  Running on one engine and dragging the other prop, I time trialed it at an easy cruise of 6 knots and topped out at just over 7 (2 way, GPS).

 

My thought is to remove one engine and use the other as a generator to power twin electric motors and charge a good size battery bank.  The engines weigh in at around 1,000lbs each so, assuming lead acid and just balancing the single engine, I come up with a bank of approximately 1.5 KW. (sound right?).

 

I’m thinking that the electric motors should be rated for about 30hp continuous each at 48 volts (trying to keep below the ominous 50 volt mark).

 

The boat does not have a genset at this time but I will be adding AC/reverse air so would probably be adding one if I did not go to the proposed configuration. 

 

How will I use the boat: My partner is finally retiring this May and we plan to spend 3 months or so onboard each year while leisurely cruising the eastern US, possibly including the ‘great loop’.  I am primarily a rag man and will keep the sailboat and use it for extended single handed trips as have been doing for the past few years.  I have a couple of 50 watt solar panels on meander and love them so plan on a good size bank for the trawler.

 

 

Please, any and all, jump in with thoughts, questions, suggestions, etc.

eric SV Meander/MV Meander TOO

 


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