Monday, October 11, 2010

[Electric Boats] Re: Some photos uploaded

 

The Kelly has an software option($29 I believe)for operating the throttle using a pot or hall device where 2.5v is off and 2.5-0 reverse and 2.5-5v is forward.

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Ric Voils <rvoils@...> wrote:
>
> Doug,
>     Really cool, I like how you bench tested your setup.  Can you show or
> explain more about how you have the forward / reverse and speed control setup?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Doug <dj2210@...>
> To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 10:50:50 AM
> Subject: [Electric Boats] Re: Some photos uploaded
>
>  
> I also thought it would be cool to have some control in the tiller but have
> decided to stick with a joystick mounted in the same location as the ICE
> controls-there's a hole there anyway:)
> Here is a lousy video I shot running the motor with the Kelly controller on the
> bench. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j6P7ucvttY
> I'm almost embarrassed to show it but it does demonstrate the unit.
> Doug
>
> --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, David Goldsmith <suntreader@> wrote:
> >
> > That's a very good looking installation Doug. Using an industrial gear box
> > like that was my second choice, but I already had this one and every buck
> > counts since this is part of a major multi-year rebuild of the boat. As far
> > as controls go I'm using the integrated box offered by Kelly for use with
> > their controllers:
> >
> > http://www.kellycontroller.com/controlbox-p-131.html
> >
> > Its a pretty home-made set-up but once everything was considered it was the
> > least expensive and more importantly, its the quickest way to get going,
> > just one plug and the controls are done and I know they're going to work.
> > Once everything is running smoothly I'll build a nicer set of controls.
> >
> > I looked for a while for an appropriate single axis, no-return, 5k pot joy
> > stick but never found one, you'll have to let us all know how yours works
> > out.
> >
> > I've thought a lot about the controls too. With everything removed and
> > filled my cockpit is now one solid bath tub with nothing through the walls.
> > For some reason this appeals to me. I thought about mounting the switches
> > and pots of a custom set up on the cabin bulkhead in the cockpit or even
> > some micro switches and pots into the tiller itself. I thought that might be
> > pretty neat. I've got to build a new tiller anyway.
> >
> > I'll try some lighter weight oil in the transmission.
> >
> > David
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Doug <dj2210@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Looks good David. I just fitted the gear reducer on my project this
> > > weekend.
> > >
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/electricboats/photos/album/1837698165/pic/1922930997/view
> >
> > >
> > > Ebay had a couple of single axis joysticks used for mobile equipment that I
> > > just purchased so they should be here sometime this week. I may have to
> > > change out the pot but between them both I should be able to get something
> > > just right. Reverse, Off-center detent, Forward.
> > > Other than batteries and a charger that should do it.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com <electricboats%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "goldsmithfoil" <suntreader@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just uploaded a couple of pictures of my MARS PMAC motor mated up to a
> > > Kanzaki transmission from the Yanmar 2QM removed from the boat. I cleaned up
> > > the transmission, painted it and used an aluminum plate to mount the motor
> > > to the bell housing in such a way that a spider coupler on the transmission
> > > input mates to the motor drive shaft.
> > > >
> > > > I have a Kelly controller and controls on order. I'm planning on
> > > installing it in a case mounted on top of the back of the gear box, so the
> > > whole drive is in one more or less self contained unit.
> > > >
> > > > My thinking in using the gearbox is it will be a very robust and reliable
> > > reduction gear and installation should be the same as any engine. I replaced
> > > the engine beds with similar but much shorter ones in the boat.
> > > >
> > > > I do have a question about efficiency. There is some effort in turning
> > > the transmission. I've been inside this type of gear box and its pretty much
> > > just two shafts with gears, nothing to it. The efficiency of mechanical
> > > gearboxes should be very high, in the 90% and up range, comparable to belt
> > > reduction, but the initial effort in turning the output shaft makes me
> > > wonder. Is it just that once the gears get running they are very efficient?
> > > Is there a fly wheel effect going on?
> > > >
> > > > I'll update with pictures of the controller installed and installation in
> > > the boat when the time comes.
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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