my copy on page 79
"—INLAND—
Lights and Shapes
RULE 25—CONTINUED
(e) A vessel proceeding under sail when also being propelled by machinery shall exhibit forward where it can best be seen a conical shape, apex downward. A vessel of less than 12 meters in length is not required to exhibit this shape, but may do so."
this is from the coast guard publication i down loaded from their site.
I do not trust the condensed versions you see in a lot of sailing books. because they usually condense out the exceptions or tailor to their specific area.
larry
--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, tartan27hull157@... wrote:
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> I can't find the relevant exception in the rules, can anyone point me to it? The day shape is described in 25 (d) (ii).e and I don't see an exemption for length there.
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> Paul
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike <biankablog@...>
> Sender: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 07:17:36
> To: <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] sailing rules
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> Larry:
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> Some of us do not have comply with the regulations for dayshapes when motoring with a sailboat  because of this wording in the rules and regulations:
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> "Vessels less than 12 meters are not required to exhibit the dayshape in inland waters."
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> At least I don't. At night it is a different story I DO put on the "steaming" light when motoring with the sail up.
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>
> --- On Wed, 10/27/10, larry <pfister.l@...> wrote:
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> From: larry <pfister.l@...>
> Subject: [Electric Boats] sailing rules
> To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 3:58 PM
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> recently there has been a lot of discussion about sailing with the motor running.
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> Does anyone know where do we stand with the navigation rules, are we power or sail?
> from
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> "RULE 3
> General Definitions
> For the purpose of these Rules, except where the context otherwise
> requires:
> (a) The word "Vessel" includes every description of water craft,
> including nondisplacement craft and seaplanes, used or capable of
> being used as a means of transportation on water.
> (b) The term "Power-driven vessel" means any vessel propelled by
> machinery.
> (c) The term "sailing vessel" means any vessel under sail provided
> that propelling machinery, if fitted, is not being used."
>
> is there something out there that covers us or are we power boats?
>
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