http://www.snopes.com/military/lighthouse.asp
cute, but false. I like it anyway.
Steve Spence
Renewable energy and self sufficiency
http://www.green-trust.org
http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com/
On 10/29/2010 09:53 AM, Mike wrote:
>
>
> "Bear in mind that "dead right" is still DEAD. Period. Think about it."
>
> You got that right Willie or to put it another way Graveyards have a lot
> of people who had the "right of way". Capt. Bill is absolutely right
> about not assuming anything about the other boaters when on the water
> too. Avoid collisions at all costs even if you have the right of way.
>
> Capt. Mike
> http://biankablog.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 10/29/10, Bill Spires /<spiresac@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Bill Spires <spiresac@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Fw: [Electric Boats] sailing rules and what?
> To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 29, 2010, 12:32 AM
>
>
>
>
> ---
> *
> *
> Guys and or Girls,
>
> I am new to this whole groups thing and I do like all the info.
> That being said, is there some way to access the info by subject
> only? As a USCG captain I can tell you that when we are propelled
> by an electric motor we are a power vessel and that yes, most people
> don't know the rules anyway and I can't remember the last time I saw
> a sailboat motor sailing with the day shape up. There is all kinds
> of great info in these post but it eludes me as to how to access
> what I want to without having to read through all the unrelated
> stuff. What if I only want the info on batteries? A friend of
> mine, Jim Long, has experience with robotic and computer controller
> interfaces along with experience in motor control and would be glad
> to help with a computer interface. How do I just look for or post
> to that area?
>
> Capt. Bill
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Steamboat Willie <stmbtwle@yahoo.com>
> *To:* electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thu, October 28, 2010 7:00:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Electric Boats] sailing rules
>
>
> I have to agree with Paul..
>
> In my opinion there is only ONE rule that matters and that's Rule
> 2. That's the catchall rule that says you do what you have to do to
> avoid a collision (in which case no-one cares), and if you fail,
> you're screwed. All the rest are just "guidelines".
>
> Bear in mind that "dead right" is still DEAD. Period. Think about it.
>
> Willie
>
> --- On *Thu, 10/28/10, tartan27hull157
> /<tartan27hull157@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: tartan27hull157 <tartan27hull157@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] sailing rules
> To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 28, 2010, 6:18 PM
>
>
> Thanks guys for helping out with the regs.
>
> I'll say again, nobody here, least of all me, is saying that the
> regs give any boat the right to cause a collision by standing to
> her course, so they can win a legal argument later. I don't know
> why that keeps coming up. Everybody knows that everybody has to
> try to avoid every collision, regardless of what the rules say.
> As I said before, this principle is written right into the rules
> (2 and 17).
>
> I do think it's funny that everyone seems quite sure that they
> are the only one who knows the rules. It seems like there is a
> corollary attitude that reads "why should I follow the rules
> (even though I know them perfectly), since none of these other
> idiots even know them. I'll just stay out of everyone's way."
> That leaves you giving way even when you are the privileged
> vessel, which is certain to cause the other guy to think you
> don't know the rules. (Maybe that's why everyone thinks everyone
> else is so dumb...?)
>
> To keep this relevant to electric boats, I'll say again that I
> think the fact that you can engage your propulsion without
> anyone knowing you have done so increases your responsibility to
> carry a day shape, even though it's very uncommon practice and
> apparently not required on small boats in the inland waterways
> of the U.S. If you don't or can't carry the day shape, at least
> recognize that other skippers don't know you are motorsailing,
> and there is no reason to confuse them further by giving way
> when they are giving way to you.
>
> Paul
>
> --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, captnlen <trikini2008@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > This is sort of de ja vue. Over on the Great Loop list is a
> similar
> > discussion on passing and overtaking. Started out as waking.
> >
> > Of course there are horn signals for this. Might be for
> crossing too.
> >
> > There is one group busy quoting sections of the rules and
> correcting or
> > interpreting it as they see it.
> >
> > The other group , which I belong too is the 98%+ of the boats
> you meet
> > out there have little or no knowledge of the rules and
> options, shapes
> > or signals.
> >
> > So I approach every situation with that in mind and never
> assume or take
> > on a position or course that even if I am in agreement with
> the rule may
> > not be recognized by the other vessel most of the time and
> cause an
> > incident.
> >
> > Rules are great only if both parties know them.
> >
> > May be a great defense in court after the incident but I
> prefer to avoid
> > incidents.
> >
> >
> > -- Live Long and Prosper
> > Capt. Len Susman, retired
> > Email : trikini2008@...
> > Creator of the TRIKINI Double Outriggers
> > 13-17-6.47-23-D-Spider-F41
> >
>
>
>
>
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