will do
am moving from Kansas to Oregon so progress on hold at the moment but will resume as quickly as I can
all the best for the holidays
Kirk
From: Mike <biankablog@verizon.net>
To: "electricboats@yahoogroups.com" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:03 PM
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Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:03 PM
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Kirk:
Thanks for the physics refresher and good luck with your interesting device. Keep us informed on it's progress. I've been looking into an energy harvesting idea on the boat. I'm hoping to build an experimental setup one of these days. I just picked up some Neodymium magnets and have some parts salvaged from a protection TV I took apart that I hope to use. Don't know if my idea will work. But, it was one of those ideas that came to me while at anchor one day. Boats especially electric ones are great places to come up with ideas.:)
Capt. Mike
http://biankablog.blogspot.com
From: Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 1:58 PM
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my solution to decentralized power
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA6LG7jtEG4
Kirk
From: Ben Okopnik <ben@linuxgazette.net>
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Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:28 PM
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Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Re: new lithium battery breakthrough?
Hi, Carter -
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 06:38:59AM -0800, Carter Quillen wrote:
>
> Ben,
>
> That day is here, right NOW!
Well, _close._ But not quite there yet. Have you noticed all the "just a
little more"s, "although"s, "still just a little"s, "approaching"s, and
"the only thing lacking"s in your own post? :)))
Seriously, though: we're very much on the cusp. It's often an
economically-feasible proposition these days, and the early adopters
aren't losing huge amounts of money (although they're going to be
insanely jealous of the economies of scale 5-10 years down the road;
you'll hear a lot of "in *my* time, we had to..." stories.)
> And, installing solar and building a decentralized energy infrastructure is
> not only infinitely more environmentally responsible, it is far more labor
> intensive than building new power plants and transmission lines and would put
> exponentially more people to work doing it. Yet the electric utility industry
> is spending millions lobbying Washington to keep the status quo in place and
> keep the rest of us in energy dark ages.
The energy lobbies don't have to work very hard at it; politicians
recognize that power decentralization is directly tied to less political
control over the populace (students of history will note that one of the
primary goals of any revolution or other military takeover is the
seizure of water, power, and radio/TV stations.) Sure, decentralizing
power has all the benefits you've listed - but it's not going to happen
as a government initiative; without control of distribution, they have
nothing (students of economics ought to spot that one from a mile off. :)
In political terms, you're asking the people holding the purse strings
to pay for getting their own throats cut. Not very likely, no matter the
economic or any other benefits that might result.
--
Ben Okopnik
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On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 06:38:59AM -0800, Carter Quillen wrote:
>
> Ben,
>
> That day is here, right NOW!
Well, _close._ But not quite there yet. Have you noticed all the "just a
little more"s, "although"s, "still just a little"s, "approaching"s, and
"the only thing lacking"s in your own post? :)))
Seriously, though: we're very much on the cusp. It's often an
economically-feasible proposition these days, and the early adopters
aren't losing huge amounts of money (although they're going to be
insanely jealous of the economies of scale 5-10 years down the road;
you'll hear a lot of "in *my* time, we had to..." stories.)
> And, installing solar and building a decentralized energy infrastructure is
> not only infinitely more environmentally responsible, it is far more labor
> intensive than building new power plants and transmission lines and would put
> exponentially more people to work doing it. Yet the electric utility industry
> is spending millions lobbying Washington to keep the status quo in place and
> keep the rest of us in energy dark ages.
The energy lobbies don't have to work very hard at it; politicians
recognize that power decentralization is directly tied to less political
control over the populace (students of history will note that one of the
primary goals of any revolution or other military takeover is the
seizure of water, power, and radio/TV stations.) Sure, decentralizing
power has all the benefits you've listed - but it's not going to happen
as a government initiative; without control of distribution, they have
nothing (students of economics ought to spot that one from a mile off. :)
In political terms, you're asking the people holding the purse strings
to pay for getting their own throats cut. Not very likely, no matter the
economic or any other benefits that might result.
--
Ben Okopnik
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