Tuesday, March 9, 2010

Re: [Electric Boats] propellers

 

For me the enticing thing about regen is to have a reliable source of power when cruising.  And even though 200 watts doesn't sound like much, when coastal sailing, and being at sea for 24 for 48 hours at a stretch, the potential is enormous compared to what I'm used to.


From the sun, even though I have nominally 500 watts of solar power, the reality is that I rarely see more than 200 watts flowing into the batteries, and its mostly commonly around 100 to 150 watts.  And because this is only available for just part of the day, it doesn't amount to much each day.  Considering overcast, shading of panels, sun angles and bird shit, I can count on around 500 watt hours of energy each day.

On the other hand, if I could get 200 watts every hour I'm sailing - well, holy smoke - that would be fantastic.  In only three hours I'd get what I normally get in an average day.  And over 24 hours I'd get 4800 watt-hours of power.  Nirvana!

In truth, I'd be happy to get 100 watts of continuous power.  Strangely enough, the biggest load for me is the house load, not the engine.  And especially when sailing - cos then I have not only the usual fridge, lights, laptop, phone charging (and you know the list...) but also the navigation load of chart plotter, depth sounder, wind instrument, nav lights, auto pilot and so on.  At those times the load is probably averages around 50 to 100 watts.  So If I could get 100 watts of regen that would cover my house load, and at times even have something to spare for the engine batteries.


Cheers

Chris


On 09/03/2010, at 10:56 AM, Myles Twete wrote:

 

Regen is an interesting recurring topic on this forum.

And there are various ways to look at it---find the way that suits your needs and go with it.

Just be sure to respect the laws of physics and known applicable equations and curves.

As mentioned by Chris, the return is not great and if the regen is to be had while under sail (rather than anchored in current), there's a penalty to be paid: Speed of boat in water.

Where the regen tradeoff is not worthwhile for sailing is if you need to keep the speed up to reach the destination by a certain tide or time and if you will have power available at your destination anyway.  If it costs 1knot on your speed to capture a mere 200watts of electricity, while it requires a doubing of power for the boat to increase speed by 1knot, the cost of regen can be steep if the primary need is to cover distance quickly and you expect good wind the entire way.

Where it would certainly be worthwhile is if you're sailing and really don't need the speed, but could or will need the electricity later.

And there's a million other circumstances between these that could swing either way.  Be conservative and have backup plans---having regen can be part of that backup plan.  But you might best add a wind generator instead.

 

Of course the no-brainer free-energy case is where you expect to be anchoring in a high current zone----but how often do you really want to do that?

 

-Myles

 

 


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