This is way off topic but I'm pretty sure that all suvivors of accidental submersions are no longer buckled in... I guess the question is whether anyone that was buckled in before the accident ever survived. I don't think that anyone would seriously think that seat belts have made cars less safe.
A friend of the family owns Big Island Air in Kona. One of their planes had a water landing a few years back. The one woman that didn't make it out of the plane inflated her vest while she was still inside, trapping her in the cabin. So technically her PFD killed her, but that doesn't make PFDs unsafe. (slightly less off-topic)
In any case, all of these events occur less often than slip and fall deaths in bathtubs. My point is that there are bigger safety concerns while boating than Hydrogen Chloride gas if you sink your boat.
Fair winds,
Eric
Marina del Rey, CA
--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:
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> my cousin drove a tow truck and in his territory the snake river irrigation canal was the location of several accidents.
> There were zero survivors among those that wore seat belts. There were survivors - and all of them were unbuckled.
> Kirk
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> "Happiness is a perfume you cannot pour on others without getting a few drops on yourself. â€
> â€" Ralph Waldo Emerson
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> ________________________________
> From: exp30002 <exp30002@...>
> To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Re: what happens if you sink your boat?
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> Why is this even being discussed?
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> For free and for fun, is why. It is the freedom of speech.
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> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Eric <ewdysar@...> wrote:
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> >Why is this even being discussed? I know of many large cruisers that have 7.2kWh (600Ah x 12V) or larger house banks and nobody is suggesting that these batteries represent a clear and present danger. In any case, lead-acid batteies are obviously way too dangerous to put in a boat, so Lithiums are the only safe choice in powering an electric boat (just kidding, in case anyone thinks my last statement was serious)
> >
> >Back when seatbelts were first being mandated, some people were worried that a seat belt might increase in-car drownings when a car went into a lake or canal. While theoretically possible, this has turned out to not be an issue.
> >
> >In 20 years of coastal and off-shore sailing, I have never sunk any of my boats (well I did turtle a sabot, but I was trying to). I would think that you should be more concerned about what a lightning strike is going to cost you. (oops, this is going to start another thread that has no practical solution)
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> >Eric
> >
> >--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Geier <matthew@> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 16/11/11 11:00, Ben Okopnik wrote:
> >> > Since the current is very small, the cross-section of the conductor
> >> > shouldn't matter very much. In addition, the contacts on a battery are
> >> > much further apart (about 50X) than the terminals I used - I was
> >> > trying for a worst-case scenario.
> >> >> â• Most likely. I hope my comment is
> >> >> constructive. I appreciate the time and effort of the video.
> >> > Gabe, I found it very constructive - good food for thought, thanks! I
> >> > might even try another experiment and record it. :)
> >> >
> >> I'd be more worried about what you get when the sulphuric acid
> >> electrolyte mixes with salt water.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure what the resulting hydrogen chloride would do to you, but
> >> it would appear it will rapidly combine with water to make hydrochloric
> >> acid. I don't think breathing it in would do you any good at all....
> >>
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