While looking at the Balqon website I found they have this 1000Ah cell on sale:
http://www.balqon.com/store.php#!/~/product/category=4218089&id=18005960
At 1000Ah for $740, wouldn't it be worthwhile to package the cells and install the BMS yourself?
(This assumes that they actually have these in stock , of course...)
-Tom
--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Yme Bosma" <mail@...> wrote:
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> That's not a WOW if you live here. I've asked Balqon whether they will ship their batteries to Europe, but I don't really understand why their is such a huge price difference betweet US and Europe battery brands.
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> --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "cire" <cirejay@> wrote:
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> > So, You were quoting plus VAT? WOW
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> > Eric SV Meander
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> > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Yme Bosma" <mail@> wrote:
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> > > Unfortunately not, I have to add another 21%...
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> > > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "cire" <cirejay@> wrote:
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> > > > Do the eur prices include VAT?
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> > > > eric SV Meander
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> > > > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Yme Bosma" <mail@> wrote:
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> > > > > I now see I miscalculated the Mastervolt vs Balqon offering. The Balqon's are indeed about 40% of the Mastervolt price. That's quite a difference... Now let's see how much they cost when delivered to Europe...
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> > > > > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Eric" <ewdysar@> wrote:
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> > > > > > I think that the most comparable offering that Balqon has to the Mastervolt batteries that you are considering is the Balqon 20kWh (48V 400Ah) forklift battery with BMS for $7950 US. That works out to $400 per kWh. This is very similar to what I paid in 2009 when I bought 8kWh for $3100 including BMS modules. So we can see that in 4 years, the price of LiFePO4 cells has remained fairly stable. For those of you that are waiting for lithium batteries to get significantly cheaper, you may be waiting a long time.
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> > > > > > I use this pricing when providing estimates to friends. I know that some people have been able to score better deals from business liquidations or limited time pricing, but the rest of us should be able to buy lithium at $400 to $500 per kWh fairly consistently.
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> > > > > > Fair winds,
> > > > > > Eric
> > > > > > 1964 Bermuda 30 ketch, 5.5kW Propulsion Marine drive, 8kWh lithium batteries
> > > > > > Marina del Rey, CA
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> > > > > > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Yme Bosma" <mail@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Yes, they have a 48v combined charger/inverter and their batteries can be used in a 48v setup (like mine as well).
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> > > > > > > The Balqon product (even without BMS) is similarly priced to the Mastervolt batteries however ($1000 per kWh), so I don't really understand how you were able to get to $270?
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> > > > > > > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, James Sizemore <james@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > I ordered my cells from Balqon. I bought 16 cells and built my bank from scratch that was before they sold them in a complete packages, if I where ordering them today I would buy four of these:
> > > > > > > > http://www.balqon.com/store.php#!/~/product/category=3262346&id=13216609
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> > > > > > > > Mastervolt is a very good company I looked into there batteries systems, at the time they only had 24 volt systems. (Do they yet have a 48 volt charger/inverter?) My Electric Yacht motors needed 48 volts. They are extra pricey in the US with the current exchange rate. So they priced themselves out of my budget.
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