Tuesday, August 3, 2010

Re: [Electric Boats] Re: hull design

 

Since my boat is on the heavy side for just battery power alone and I dont want gasoline, I was looking at a 13 hp water cooled yanmar and mounting 4 12 volt high amp alternators http://www.missouriwindandsolar.com/Super_Patriot_2_PMA.html
Or would I be better off with the 48 volt system for charging and running?
Aaron

--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Grapeview Point Boat Works <boat_works@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Grapeview Point Boat Works <boat_works@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Re: hull design
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 1:49 PM

 
I wouldn't want to put a non-ignition protected gas generator in the bilge, even if it was legal to do so, which it isn't.

-Tom

--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Ned Farinholt <nedfarinholt@ comcast.net> wrote:

From: Ned Farinholt <nedfarinholt@ comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Re: hull design
To: electricboats@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 1:57 PM

 
Sirdarnell, Eric, Myles, redu, et al,

Thanks for the inputs. I am now convinced of the need to go to LiFePO batteries but 600 lbs busts the budget. 8 kWh of battery and a Honda EU2000 is now my thinking.

An intriguing thought, which probably shows my ignorance of hydrodynamics more than anything, is the use of a boxed keel. The recent article in Wooden Boat about the efficiency of the Atkins Rescue Minor at S/L of 2 to 3 got my attention. It would seem that L/B (  > 12) allows one to exceed Fn of .4. So if the keel carries 50-75% of the displacement, the hull will be very lightly loaded and generate very little wave drag. The surface resistance of the keel could be minimized by making it mostly semicircular cross-section. The keel would be ballasted with batteries of whatever type and the motor generator. The Honda is only 11.4 inches wide. Naturally, there would be a bilge pump in the keel and the boat would be mostly decked. The keel would be open to the inside the boat and formed with the hull. The hull above the keel could be a canoe or a light planing hull ala Atkins. So the keel acts as a high L/B displacement hull above which is a light planing hull. LOA about 25', keel about 20' displacement including batteries, motor, m/g, passengers and hull less than 1000 lb. What do you think? 
Thanks for you patience,
Ned


On Aug 3, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Myles Twete wrote:

 

Eric-

 

That was an awesome analysis!

 

-Myles

 

>Honestly, these calcs came out more favorable than I expected, so I thought that I would share with the group.

Fair winds,
Eric
Marina del Rey, CA




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