T-Pain Is On A Boat: Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Helm Instrumentation Project

Roger that Kirk! I was marveling the other day that all the original 32 yo analogue guages on the Arc's diesel control panel, tachometer, engine temp, oil temp, and oil pressure are still operational. The tip of the indicator needle itself on the tack is almost corroded off but it still registers what seem to be reasonable readings although admittedly I have never calibrated it, the output is definitely proportional to the motor speed though. This is a boat with an open cockpit that was kept in salt water for 27 of those 32 years too. To add to that, several electronic digital navigation instruments, added years later by the second owner of the boat, are long dead.

Carter

www.archemedesproject.blogspot.com

From: Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@yahoo.com>
To: "electricboats@yahoogroups.com" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Helm Instrumentation Project

I love bells and whistles but when push comes to shove the old D'Arsonval meter movement is way more reliable.

From: Roger L <rogerlov@ix.netcom.com>
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Helm Instrumentation Project

Mike, I'm from the generation where electrical meters had needles and return springs and measured the currents with shunts. So to me, an LED readout is amazingly modern....almost scarily so.

But if I understand what mkriley48 (mike) is saying, the LED readouts are themselves dated and a more modern system would use a single data display screen with all the battery/motor info transmitted wirelessly - and no reason it couldn't include gps, chart, depth, and maybe this email as well.

Is that what is being proposed?

I wonder if anyone can put such a system together in as much detail as Capt. Mike did for his LED system?

Roger L. - with the electric canoe..... 1hp & 10 amp*hrs = all afternoon enjoyment.

..........

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From: mkriley48

To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 6:49 AM

Subject: [Electric Boats] Re: Helm Instrumentation Project

kindle 3 runs on java and handles pdf files well the intercoastal pdf booklet files run well on the kindle. I would forget the arduino and get a stick android computer. these can act as a webserver and use gps programs. As I see it all you have to do is pipe the output of the gps program and serve it up as a dynamically refreshed web page.
I would think this could be done java under android and no hacking of the kindle. engine information could be displayed in a separate frame along the bottom.
mike

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Pemberton <pembertonkevin@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I grew up using LED. I still do, for all my lighting needs. I have a lot
> of research to do to get an e-book reader to do the job but am thinking
> it would be best. I have seen some posts from people planning Arduino
> projects on this list. Boards for WiFi can be purchased for the board
> and many analogue ports are available. What I am hoping for by posting
> such a post is to get these people thinking about such a project and see
> who comes up with a usablduct we might all incorporate in our
> projects. Imagine a touch screen to move between screens for much of the
> info we need to monitor. Water resistant device that for marine use
> beats most other displays we use.
>
> A page could be produced on the Arduino and called for and displayed on
> the tablet device as web pages. Web pages are easy to make, your blog is
> proof of that. Wordpress could be used to produce such pages. or
> standard html editor would save required computing power. Hardware to
> use the Arduino as a server is easy to find. Really all that is needed
> can be found as black boxes. Because the system is Open Source
> collaboration would likely be easy to find.
>
> As a summation of our three posts.
>
> Your idea is great.
> If others like your lead, I thought I would introduce my thoughts for a
> power stingy option.
> Sharing what I am thinking with all on the list so it may prompt getting
> a project started.
>
> It might be noted that the arduino has hardware on board for PWM
> projects. This means that logic for a motor control is onboard should
> someone have experience enough for high power end of a controller. The
> arduino can be purchased online or at most Radio Shack stores for under
> $50.00 and can be programmed easily with the downloadable IDE. Many
> projects can be used free of charge that will get someone a good start.
>
> Kevin Pemberton
>
> Kevin Pemberton
>
> On 04/07/2013 09:13 AM, Mike wrote:
> >
> > Kevin:
> >
> > Yeah I found out the hard way that LCD displays do not like the sun
> > which is why I had to remount my XBM battery monitor under the
> > starboard hatch. The LED displays of my Instrumentation panel should
> > hold up better at the helm position and so far so good. As far as
> > power consumption I have a switch that will turn the voltage displays
> > on and off since I don't need to watch them that closely much of the
> > time. The current display gets it's power from the helm power and so
> > is only energised when I'm using things like my chart plotter or AIS
> > display.   I agree a Kindle type of display would be nice and WIFI
> > connection would also be nice but, was a little to complicated for my
> > needs.
> >
> > Capt. Mike
> > http://biankablog.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Kevin Pemberton <pembertonkevin@...
> > <mailto:pembertonkevin%40gmail.com>>
> > To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:electricboats%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2013 10:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Helm Instrumentation Project
> >
> >
> >
> > Nice Mike,
> >
> > I also have been looking into a way to get feedback from my bank.
> > I admit my needs are different than a boater needs, but I like
> > your system. I am thinking of a dedicated E-book reader that
> > receives the information via WiFi from an arduino board set to
> > monitor my system locations of interest. The right reader will
> > give me a sun safe and easy to read display. My past experience
> > with LED displays is they are a little power hungry. The Problem
> > with LCD displays are sun will black them out and destroy them
> > with time. The idea of electric paper type display may well
> > overcome these problems. I just need to find the right tablet that
> > I can do some Java programming on (modify it's intended design),
> > and build an apt. I suppose I could use a smart phone and keep up
> > with the data remotely but that is more involved than I have
> > desire for.
> >
> > Kevin Pemberton
> >
> > On 04/07/2013 06:42 AM, cire wrote:
> >
> >
> > >Thanks Mike,
> > >
> > >Quite interesting.
> > >
> > >If you do your post as Rich-Text the addresses come out as
> > links, eliminating the need to copy and paste.
> > >
> > >eric SV Menader
> > >
> > >--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:electricboats%40yahoogroups.com>, Mike <biankablog@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Recently I built a helm instrumentation panel so I
> > could keep an eye on battery voltages and current draw on
> > the propulsion bank without leaving the helm while
> > underway. It worked out pretty good though I still have to
> > mount it permanently. The links to the process I went
> > through are here:
> > >>
> > >>
> > http://biankablog.blogspot.com/2013/02/instrumentation-project-part-one-plan-a.html
> > >>
> > http://biankablog.blogspot.com/2013/02/instrumentation-project-part-two.html
> > >>
> > http://biankablog.blogspot.com/2013/02/instrumentation-project-part-three-plan.html
> > >>
> > http://biankablog.blogspot.com/2013/02/instrumentation-project-part-four.html
> > >>
> > http://biankablog.blogspot.com/2013/03/instrumentation-project-part-five-panel.html
> > >>
> > http://biankablog.blogspot.com/2013/03/instrumentation-project-part-six-choose.html
> > >>
> > http://biankablog.blogspot.com/2013/03/instrumentation-project-part-seven.html
> > >>
> > http://biankablog.blogspot.com/2013/03/instrumentation-project-part-eight.html
> > >>
> > http://biankablog.blogspot.com/2013/03/instrumentation-project-part-9.html
> > >>
> > http://biankablog.blogspot.com/2013/03/instrumentation-part-10-current-meter.html
> > >>
> > >> Capt. Mike
> > >> http://biankablog.blogspot.com/
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Committing murder in exchange for lifestyle
> > makes you a "thug" not a "Rights Activist"
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Committing murder in exchange for lifestyle
> makes you a "thug" not a "Rights Activist"
>

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