Sunday, June 10, 2012

Re: [Electric Boats] Outboard.. from scratch

 

I wonder why more people arent usign the Prius motor/box its very good and comes with the gearbox and a second setup of windings which can act as motor or generator ....

Also the cells altho small are very very good; of far higher quality thananything you will find in a power tool.

Andrew Gilchrist

On 10/06/2012 5:11 AM, Arby Bernt wrote:

 
Less is more. 
Reduce the number parts to cut parasitic losses and service. 
The ideal propulsion system would be a magneto restrictive drive running off a single 2.2v (or 3.6v) cell. No moving parts or battery string issues...
Long Live Ray Bradbury!

Be Well,
Arby

On Jun 8, 2012, at 8:18 AM, "tom_f22wanabe" <tom@triatic.ca> wrote:

 

Sorry Craig but this has been done already. A version of this planetary drive is already in every Prius as well.

The original marine version is now made by Ikanos but you may know it as Solomon Technologies.

It is a great idea in any case.

Tom

> I must remark that I hear all the time "if that could be done/if it
> was practical, someone would have done it." I find it's true much
> less often than you'd think.
>
> For example, I just realized last month that you can use a simple 3
> element planetary gear as a compact, infinitely variable torque
> converter to replace an entire automotive transmission. (My "Electric
> Hubcap" motor was named for where I want them to mount, not just for
> its pancake shape.) Just let the ring gear slip backwards at a
> controlled rate and you increase the reduction ratio between the sun
> gear and the planets assembly. You can have 1000 to 1 if it's needed.
> (Somewhat unintuitively, no energy is lost except frictional losses.
> The slip control is of course an important design detail. It can be
> controlled by a mechanical brake/clutch, possibly a magnetic brake,
> or with a motor/generator.)
>
> It took me 3 years to come up with that... and planetary gears have
> been around for maybe a century. If anyone else ever figured it out
> previously, they didn't tell anybody. There've been lots of people
> trying hard for a long time to come up with a good CVT or torque
> converter, and there are a number of strange, complex and inefficient
> designs out there.
>
> Craig

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