T-Pain Is On A Boat: Re: [Electric Boats] "Batteries Not Included"

Monday, May 20, 2013

Re: [Electric Boats] "Batteries Not Included"

Hi James

-I didn't mean to imply that you aren't on to something,
it's a fool who dismisses something without at least a cursory check.

-I

also

don't belong to the school of

"if it worked you'd see it being used our sold"

history is littered with great ideas that couldn't beat vested interest, and the type of person that comes up with our perfects anything different usually isn't the savvy marketing type.

- I would always rather give experienced based advice
that quote thermodynamic laws, the trouble is these days there are so few that have had "dirty hands" and too many that have had education without experience, Confucius said it best "empty barrels make the most noise".

-

If you're sure you're onto something that works:

1)

Don't be put off by those quoting laws they don't fully understand

Build a prototype and test

under a real load, a scope or multimeter voltage reading often disappears when a cct is loaded
3)

If it doesn't work don't necessarily doubt yourself,

as around then is when the "I told you so" replays in your head..... on a loop.
4) Get help

from someone/somewhere that is able to provide it. Depending on the cct/device you may well have to lie or isolate the part not functioning as planned, as if you submit details the entire cct/device and/or explain why you think it's not working, you may well be shown the door. Remember halls of higher learning build on the past and on enhancing/improving existing ideas/systems and not trailblazing, as they already "know" what can't be done.

-You do need at least one other person around you that can be positive when all the

educated

dumb ones are saying I told you so

it's cold out there, especially alone.

-You must NOT think that if you come up with a better mousetrap that the world will beat a path to your door. Even the "greats" who's laws the knockers hide behind took some serious hits when they suggested things a little too radical, although they were later proven to be right, don't let anyone put you off.

- I'm not after your secrets, and I have my own Confidentiality Agreement you can use that I'll sign if you want, but I'm happy to give unbiased advice. Most "alternative" energy devices are said to work on one or two well trodden paths, and I've tested a few of most methods so may well be able to save you time and money.

Cheers

On 20 May 2013 13:28, "stmbtwle" <stmbtwle@yahoo.com> wrote:

Sorry James but I have to agree with Julian. Have you done the math? If you want to charge your batteries by plugging into shore power you may have a nice electric boat, but you won't be able to fit enough solar panels or a big enough windmill to provide the power you need. "Rotoverter", "Ambient energy", "Radiant energy", "Electrolytic energy" all go in the same file with "Perpetual Motion".

Folks don't like to think about it, but there's a REASON our electric utilities haven't already switched over to those devices.

Willie

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "james4078" <james4078@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the words of wisdom.
> I have a few emails that I would rather soon forget but that comes with the territory.
> I was kind of hoping to get a better reaction from this group than some of the others.
> With 3845 members you would think that most would like to get some new information on a project such as this.
> Well I will be glad to hear from you and as always do what you can when you can.
> Thanks for the help
>
> James
>
>
> --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Julian Webb <julian.proto@> wrote:
> >
> > hi james
> >
> > - just had a read of your crowd funding page, and my first piece of advice
> > is to be very careful of your wording there, here and everywhere.
> >
> > - i'm not sure what your actual energy source/plan/generating/harnessing
> > ideas are but unless you want to be written off, ridiculed, abused or at
> > best condescendingly lectured to, don't ever use the word "energy" in the
> > same sentence with other words such as "alternative", "unlimited" or heaven
> > forbid "free".
> >
> > - irrespective of what you meant, it will be assumed you that you have
> > either never heard of newton or maxwell or you just didn't get it, and you
> > will incur the wrath of educated non-thinkers who are so eager to show what
> > they learned at school that they won't wait to ask you the how or what of
> > what you meant or are doing but will trip over themselves at the
> > opportunity make themselves sound smart by making you sound stupid.
> >
> > - open minded, unbiased, ego free help with anything "a bit different" is
> > hard to find and if i can be of any help please email me on
> > everhopeful@ and if i can't i'll try to point you somewhere that
> > can.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> >
> >
> > On 19 May 2013 03:53, james4078 <james4078@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Greetings from Florida everyone.
> > > I've been a member of this group for some time now and I try to help out
> > > when I can.
> > > Now I am asking for all your help.
> > > As there is not much technical data available for us electric boaters I am
> > > assembling a project that will provide much needed data.
> > > I have been working alone on this for close to 3 years and now I want to
> > > get it finished and create a data bank of some sort for all electric boater
> > > out there.
> > > Here is a link to our crowd funding project, once done all data will be
> > > readily available "open source"
> > > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/alternative-energy-source--2/x/3222114
> > >
> > > I will also be looking for some technical expertise for those that want to
> > > offer that.
> > >
> > > Thanks again
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > > project #2
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/electricboats/photos/album/547817076/pic/list
> > > project #1
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/electricboats/photos/album/1200862879/pic/list
> > >
> > > It has been too long between projects
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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