Brian,
What are you converting? Single engine or twin screws? How big of a battery bank?
I had the crazy thought that if my engines blew (or possibly even one), I might consider re-powering with electric. The thing that concerns me is that I really do like going at least 8mph, and I'm not sure if I'd have to pull a barge to have enough batteries to do that for more than an hour...
John
On Friday, September 14, 2018, 6:48:27 PM CDT, Brian Dolan kd5crs@gmail.com [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I'm also converting a cabin cruiser, except I'm going whole hog with conversion from gas to electric for propulsion too.. LiFePO4 is a good choice, because performance can improve with less weight. It isn't like a monohull sailboat where the weight difference is negligible vs the lead keel.
I got my LiFePO4s gently used, I will give a review once I've done some experiments. Cost was about as much as new AGMs, and of course about 1000 lbs lighter.
Brian
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 2:51 PM Daniel Michaels nov32394@yahoo.com [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
On a budget why are you going with lithium batteries? Use AGM down to 20% or lead crystal down to 0%. A simple solar panel or a "Solar" 100/20/2 smart charger. Backup 2200 inverter generator will run all day in case you need to keep the air conditioner going longer than expected.
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:42 AM, oak oak_box@yahoo..com [electricboats]<electricboats@yahoogroups..com> wrote:I currently have a gas powered cabin cruiser, with a gas powered generator - that may be dead at this point..Rather than replacing the generator, or spending a LOT of money on questionable mechanics over the next couple of years... I'm thinking about replacing the generator with a bank of LiFePO4 batteries and a good sized inverter.My current expectation is that while I'm out away from shorepower, I won't be gone that long, and I won't need a tremendous amount of 120V AC power. Eventually, my long term goal would be to build up the battery bank to the point where I could run the boat's AC for up to 4-6 hours while I'm out on the water.... I should be able to get 3000W inverter without spending a fortune, and that should cover anything I'd want to run on the boat (once I build up the battery bank...).This project is just to get things started and get more familiar with lithium batteries, etc...My thought was to start with four CALB 100Ah cells to generate the 12V for the inverter.BMS: I'm comfortable playing with arduinos.* I was thinking of using an Arduino Nano (8 analog input ports) to monitor the battery. (voltage dividers to get the battery voltages at each point of the string within the range of the Arduino)* I can set up the "BMS" to monitor the voltage of each of the 4 cells in the bank (and even run 2 parallel banks with just one Arduino). I'm assuming I need to monitor the discharge voltage of each cell, and monitor the charge voltage of each cell. With a shunt, I'd even be able to monitor the current going through the system.* Is that all I need the "BMS" to do? I could set up a contactor between the battery and the load/charger so that if the bms tripped due to any cell getting out of spec, it would shut down any load or charging.Charging: If I don't care how long it takes to charge the bank, can I simply hook up a 10A power supply to the 12V series string, set the voltage to 14V (3.5V per cell), and let it go? At 10A, this would be .1C, which from what I've read should be very safe for the bank. I realize it won't be fast, and I realize that I would lose some efficiency, but would I hurt the batteries? The bank would usually have at least overnight to charge, if not several days.Battery Bank Wiring:If I start with 100Ah cells, this is easy - just wire 4 cells in series, monitor the voltage at each connection, subtract to get the cell voltage, and do the logic to generate signals for LED's and the relay to shut the thing down if it gets out of spec.When I add the next bank... Is it better to put the cells in parallel, and then put the parallel'd cells in series, or is it better to put two (or more) series strings in parallel? The one key difference I see here is that if I put multiple strings in parallel, then I can put a BMS point on each battery cell..I'm trying to do this on a reasonably small budget - and trying to limit the big expenses to the batteries.thoughts / suggestions?John
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