Sunday, September 2, 2018

Re: [Electric Boats] 48v ELECTRIC OUTBOARD

 

If you burn out the 1000 watt motor ad a 2 or 3000 watt motor. The outboard body is worth $300.
Nick



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From: "forums forums@greensdomain.com [electricboats]" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 2018-09-02 12:51 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] 48v ELECTRIC OUTBOARD

 

In my earlier post, I was NOT saying the Hangkai was bad or useless.  But, its specs are a little misleading.  In your comments, you say Torqeedo is 24 volts, but later quote the price of the 48 volt model.  Let's compare apples to apples.  The Hangkai is a 1000 Watt motor.  The Torqeedo Cruise 4 is a 4000 Watt motor.  That is a 4 to 1 difference so not a valid comparison.  If all you need is 1000 Watts, it sounds like the Hangkai might be a good deal depending on its dependability (which I can't speak to because I have never seen one).

Pat


On 9/2/2018 6:01 AM, Berlouin Fred berlouin@yahoo.com [electricboats] wrote:
 
48v ELECTRIC OUTBOARD


There were few posts about the 48v outboard, and I will allow me some more lines.

If we can compare in this forum Hangkai vs Torqueedo, (Epropulsion  vs Torqeedo makes more sense), I am not sure that we should compare german to Chinese in this electricboat yahoogroup.

Hangkai vs torqueedo

·        Hangkai is 48v while Torqueedo outboard is 24v. We don't need a calculator to understand the difference between 24 and 48.  All adult scooters are 48v, the 24v scooters are for kid with limited speed, range, weight users and no uphill. A 12v drill is amateur, and 24v drill is professional.

·        Hangkai is easier to transport with a separate battery. You can leave the outboard in a shed or on the dinghy.

·        You can find and replace the battery at a reasonable price, extend the range, charge home or on the boat inverter.

·        The cost of the Hangkai battery is not dedicated to the outboard. It can be use as navigation or house battery, for a kid scooter, to go to work on an electric bike,…

·        Motor  in the water with Torqeedo means more maintenance (seal, shaft) and risk to damage ( hit a  rock = flooding)

·        Hangkai 3.6 hp 48v is around $229,  Torqeedo cheapest 48v is at 3599 euros

·        This outboard will be used once or twice a year, at the most, one week maybe for very few of us. The investment cost should be minimum.

·        Most of the Hangkai parts will be ready available everywhere cheaply, easy to find on Ebay ( throttle, controllers, and motor, battery from electric bikes / scooters). Torqeedo owners will have to learn german  to order expensive and specific parts from germany ( made in China?).

·        Hangkai is without pretention, it looks like the common petrol outboard., Torqeedo presents an unusual design with useless GPS and USB features for short-range navigations. In my dinghy, I certainly keep my phone in my pocket.

Thank you for reading.

Fred

 

 

Chinese vs german?

According these previous points, there is an obvious better assessment of the general needs of every users, the day usage, the practicability, and realistic marketing price from the Chinese.

Knowing that the Chinese don't feel comfortable at sea, that most of the 48v electric bikes are above $1000, this $229 outboard is a real challenge.

Not racist nor nationalist I will not presume a superiority of the Asian Chinese brain over the arian german  brain but tariffs on german products ( non-electric cars) in US could avoid you another swim in Normandy!!

Sorry to be so boring and thank you for reading to the end

Fred

 


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