Thursday, August 18, 2011

Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Lead carbon batteries

 

Hey Eric,

Problem with the second link is that the report was EEE. Not a producer but engineering data.

The fact that the carbon is available as an additive and can be used after market and is cheap to buy makes changing batteries and asking more for them is not an option. The fact that in China and Japan the carbon is sold as an additive. As well as the fact that EEE felt it important to offer a paper on it kind of leaves the research up to you. The Q&D research indicates that no myth is in the report, but rather a viable alternative.

For those of us trying to make our projects low cost as we can.  Any option that takes cycle life off the table sounds great.

Kevin Pemberton

On 08/18/2011 04:04 PM, Eric wrote:

 

Hi Kevin,

This sounds great! But the paper in your second link was published in Jan 1998. If this was going to be a real game changer, what happened? Why hasn't anyone been able to bring anything to market in 13 years, even a small start-up? If this makes regular flooded batteries so much more cost effective, why haven't the big battery manufacturers jumped all over this? You know that companies are spending literally billions of dollars per year and getting smaller returns than what this article claims.

One can make up a Global Conspiracy that is intentionally supressing the technology, but who would do that, and what would they gain?

To me, this looks like another "fantastic breakthrough" like the ones that you read about in Popular Science, that sound great but never materialize.

Still, if we're lucky, this might actually pan out. But I'm not holding my breath...

Eric

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Pemberton <pembertonkevin@...> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I am reading about carbon additives to lead acid batteries. The process
> is supposed to add quite a bit of life to the lead acid battery. You can
> check it out here:
> http://www.altenergystocks.com/archives/2009/07/why_leadcarbon_batteries_will_deflate_the_lithiumion_bubble.html
>
> Another link to validate the claim is
> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=653893
>
> I am thinking we have found a major answer to our battery issues.
>
> Kevin Pemberton
>



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