I'd really like to have a hybrid marine diesel setup , with some solar panels also.
It would mean , like I have done over the last few weeks , when the arthritis is playing up too much to get the mainsail up , I can motor .
Over 2 hours of motoring , I probably wouldn't use 3 litres of diesel , so its no big deal.
But when I get out to the fishing grounds it would be nice to then switch to electric , and just troll around like I do now .
Trolling in engine mode , well its not as much fun as under sail , but over this winter , I'd only put the main up 1/2 the times I've gone out , and I go out at least once a week , over winter , every second day , or more , in the warmer months.
I won't have petrol or gas on the boat , and all electrical work is done by a very experienced marine electrician.
I work also in the radio room of the volunteer Coastguard , and all of our callouts have been involving petrol engines , fires and explosions , and electrical.
None with diesel engines failing.
Its pretty chilling , to get a "mayday" from a boat way out to sea , after a petrol fumes explosion and fire.
I'd love to have the best of both worlds , diesel , and electric.
My concern though , is we read of these big banks of batteries , and petrol generators , I presume on deck , what happens if they get swamped ?.
One of our last responses was to an epirb , set off by a boat owner after his boat was hit by a rogue wave , and was in real danger of sinking.
No electrics , no way of starting the outboard , no radio , no electric bilge pump.
Could someone please tell us how they have safeguarded against this occurrence ?.
Regards Rob J.
From: sirdarnell <sirdarnell@yahoo.com>
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 31 August, 2010 11:59:43 AM
Subject: [Electric Boats] Re: Retrofiting a classic
No one has developed the controller for this in smaller sizes. Also, I think in small systems the fuel savings don't make up for the costs of the electric drive system.
The trick is to use any excess energy in a useful and needed fashion while keeping the diesel generator running in it's ideal power band, usually 65-85% of full speed (rpms.) However, a possibility would be a smart battery controller with remote generator start up (you can find these on some websites selling to the off-grid market.) Assuming you have a good sized house battery so you can sit in a nice anchorage and enjoy nature without a generator constantly running... Use the house (not starting) battery drive your motor, but have the charge controller automatically turn on the generator when the batteries hit some level, say 50% dept of discharge. Now if you've an efficient, preferably DC generator, that can provide full power to the charger and the motor, we're set. When you hear the generator start or see the indicator light come on, if possible, adjust boat speed until the generator is running at 65-80% of maximum rpms.
BTW hybrids are not diesel-electrics or gas-electrics, unless they are what one company calls an extended range electric car. Since in a diesel-electric system the diesel doesn't attached to the drive train, not even in trains. (Except one Canadian brand that has diesel/electric hybrid train engine.)
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electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Eric" <ewdysar@...> wrote:
>
> Sid,
>
> You're absolutely correct. Diesel-electric has been used for many decades and has proven to be more efficient than diesel alone. But there appears to be a problem of scale. Do you know of any specific examples of successful diesel-electric vehicles or vessels that weigh less than 100 tons?
>
> Fair winds,
> Eric
> Marina del Rey, CA
>
> --- In
electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "sirdarnell" <sirdarnell@> wrote:
> >
> > I keep seeing this. The military has been using diesel generators with electric engines since the 1930s (maybe earlier) to get more range. So it must be work. Not to mention trains, cruise ships, Ice breakers, freighters, etc.
> >
> > --- In
electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Michaels <nov32394@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Unless you are going to supplement the generator with solar and wind or shore power I think you will get less range than by just using a diesel engine.
> > >
> > > Dan
> >
>
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