I to only know what I have picked up from living on the great Lakes and reading a lot of blogs. Many folks take the eastern side both up and down. Most folks only do the st Lawrence and Montreal area if they have a particular interest in the region. It is shorter to do the erie canal system by far. I think if you want to do the entire loop the western side is much easier going down than up because of currents.
Nick
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From: "Jeff LaCoursiere jeff@jeff.net [electricboats]" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 2016-06-11 6:28 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Solar Electric Regatta
I haven't researched this at all really, but is there any reason not to go the other way 'round? I live in Chicago, and have often thought I would attempt to go through the lakes to get to the Atlantic. It seems the current would be with you then around Montreal.
j
On 06/11/2016 08:34 AM, 63urban 63urban@gmail.com [electricboats] wrote:
So if you take the erie canal to lake erie and then the Trent severe at Kingston there is absolutely no need to hit those kinds of currents
Nick
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From: "Carter Quillen twowheelinguy@yahoo.com [electricboats]" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 2016-06-11 8:37 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Solar Electric Regatta
Jason,
Yes, I've heard of this stretch in my studies of the Great Lakes transit. With a top speed of 4 kts under solar alone, and 5 kts gulping off the batteries too, it's one of the reasons I'm not sure the Arc is quite up to the task right now. However I've been told these extreme currents only occur after lots of rain and that typically it's more like 1-3kts. Either way though, it will make for long slog under solar power or long wait for the rains to subside and has to be accounted for when calculating the passage time.
Further evidence for the need to get an early start.
Capt. Carter
On Friday, June 10, 2016 7:45 AM, "'Jason (Electric Boats) Taylor' jt.yahoo@jtaylor.ca [electricboats]" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Just around Montreal (the first locks heading up the St. Lawrence) there are several places where the current reaches 4-5kts. These aren't tides that can be waited out. And it's a major shipping channel with lots of lakers and shoals not far off the channels so not many options for dropping the hook and recharging in the sun.
--Jason Taylorv:514-815-8204e:j@jtaylor.ca
On Jun 9, 2016, at 15:55, Carter Quillen twowheelinguy@yahoo.com [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Nick,
Have you ever cruised long distances on nothing but sunshine as your ONLY source of fuel? I'm talking about no backups, just the Sun! Trust me, it's more complicated than it sounds. Don't count on the weather cooperating either, it seldom does.
Depending on your boat, by my calculations, you better be at the first lock into the lakes pretty early in the season if you want to be SURE you're going to get to the Mississippi river before summer is over. All solar cruising can be tricky business. You are at the mercy of sun, or lack there of. And you have very limited power too, so wind and currents have much more effect on your time line.
Admittedly I'm basing my calculations on the performance of my boat which is probably not the best performing solar boat around because it was built for comfort, not speed. But even if it worked twice as good as it does, I'd still get an early start to be sure. And even then, the weather will have to cooperate a little.
Maybe if you got started right now but I wouldn't wait too long. Anything later than July and you might find yourself wintering in the Great Lakes. That's all I'm saying.
Capt. Carter
On Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:32 PM, "63urban 63urban@gmail.com [electricboats]" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Why is it too late to get across the great Lakes this year? Many folks take three years to do the loop because that is how it is best enjoyed. I see no reason why it could not be done in a season if it were a race and tourism 2as not the goal.
Nick
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From: "Carter Quillen twowheelinguy@yahoo.com [electricboats]" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 2016-06-09 10:55 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Solar Electric Regatta
It has officially slipped another year because the guy doing it hasn't finished his boat yet, (Electric Blue). Which btw was quite predictable. I'm not surprised he hasn't updated his website but the latest on his progress can be found on his facebook page, "Electric Blue Solar Yacht". Which, to date, is neither "Electric" or "Solar". (However he is getting closer)
While I think the idea of a solar regatta around the great loop is an excellent concept, imo, this particular race is little more than a self serving attempt by this guy to get free stuff. The schedule was always unrealistic and he has been promoting it looong before his boat was even running. There are several other people who have been attempting to be the first to transit the great loop strictly on solar power for years but have all failed. It's a very challenging passage but someone will eventually do it, maybe next season though, because it's too late to get across the great lakes this year. Personally, I've given up on the idea for myself because the Archimedes most likely doesn't quite have the ass to do it in its current configuration and I don't have the resources yet to make the necessary upgrades. Someday perhaps, but for now I'm please to say the Arc has been running great these last 3 years and I'm content to be cruising the back waters of Florida just for the fun of it, 2500 solar powered miles and counting.
Capt. Carter
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