Friday, December 17, 2010

Re: [Electric Boats] New member, Q re: Duffy Boat

 

Damn you have a Chinese wife. A dwarf daughter, vietnamese relatives in Germany and you became a lawyer. Dude you drew the short stick in life! Maybe scratch a few letters off your business cards and become a barrista. No offense intended. But I really hope nobody here would help a lawyer build a case because some guy doesn't understand what he is doing and wants someone to blame. 

Why can't I see Barry as half white American?

Maybe a better way to approach this forum would be to ask for help in tracing a problem, rather than fetching food for sharks....

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On Dec 17, 2010, at 7:58 AM, barristerla <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Rick,

I like a good lawyer joke as much as the next guy, perhaps more, thanks.

Thanks also for pointing out, not so subtly, that blanket profiling a group of folks for the purpose of ridicule is not appropriate or wise. Picking on lawyers per se, while an ancient art, is akin to picking on my wife for being Chinese, picking on my daughter for being a dwarf, picking on my relatives in Germany for being Vietnamese or picking on our President for being African. It's an ugly can of worms and simply should be avoided.

As noted prior, my purpose here is to find out whether this potential claim is a worthy one. After all of the feedback received, it seems to me that it's borderline at best.

I thank all of you who have offered positive and constructive feedback.

Scott K.

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Rick Campos <rick_1211@...> wrote:
>
> THE OLD SAYING A 1000 LAWYERS CHAINED TO THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN IS A GOOD START.........is usually what most people believe is a good start once they feel an attorney gets in...somehow.
>  
> What everyone should believe as true is that it is true!...but a nessesary truth. Civil trial attorneys would be out of business in a heartbeat if they had regulations restricting what a manufacturer may claim or state. Of course "they" would be them...who are they ...your government!
>  
> So lawyers attack! Afterall, even if this particular manufacturer cannot correct the problem because of unknown variables (ie: charging, battery displacement, etc) they should extend every possible consideration regarding a customer who was just buying a boat. This electric engine 'conversation' posted on this forum, and many others, are for tinkerers and alternative thinkers. Not a main and commonly believed understanding..such as a car!
>  
> We all know a car's gauge(s) will only let you drift to a halt or stall....a situation not dangerous and easily corrected. Notwithstanding a possibility of ...let's say running out of gas as a tractor trailer is dead on your bumper....NOT AT ALL. But a boat that stalls...lets say in a lane.....can be extremly dangerous! A boat who's power cuts out docking may create a dangerous situation....to themselves or other's.
>  
> We have seatbelts, airbags, energency brakes....all adopted after trial attorney's did thier thing! Not the manufacturer, not the government....these were implemented not for your safety..really! If the price was high they never would have been implemented.
>  
> IN BOATS....THERE ARE NO REGULATIONS REGARDING LOW POWER PROPULSION, thats why many people opt for a 48 volt system. Staying below a certain voltage requirement does not require coast guard approval.
>  
> MANY 'SO-CALLED' MANUFACTURER'S are racing for market share and the simple truth is THERE IS NO BASE LINE. If they stressed this IMPORTANT INFORMATION regarding batteries, gauges, boat design, etc BEFORE SELLING IT......they probably would cut thier sales in half...if that
>  
> As I stated a long time ago on this site, I designed my own system (48V) generator backup on an older 30 ft. Hunter. It works because I am a scientist who wanted the diesel mechanic to go away. I am a tinkerer in this field. I have loved it...BUT BE REAL....I know what will and can go wrong. Never should a company state anything it cannot prove or at least service and educate.
>  
> My suggestion to you is to have the batteries and gauges verified by a service person who works in the golf cart or better forklift type industry.
>  
> Best of Luck
> Rick
>
> --- On Thu, 12/16/10, barristerla <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: barristerla <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] New member, Q re: Duffy Boat
> To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 11:51 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Dear Rick and Mark,
>
> Thank you for your insight.
>
> I think the main issue with this gentleman is that the gauge always seems to be inaccurate, even when fully powered, so, when it says it has 2.5 hours remaining, he is never sure what he's got. The representation from Duffy as to the efficacy of the gauge was quite different.
>
> That all said, it seems like you are saying one can never rely on their gauges? If that's true, these craft seem quite dangerous by design.
>
> George, as to the advice re: a qualified technician, the boat manufacturer warranties the boat and this item, but refuses to fix. I should note, your tone is not appreciated...
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott Kaufman
>
> --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, GeoMar Logistics <geomarlogistics@> wrote:
> >
> > *Go away. Tell your client to suck it up, stop whining and get a qualified
> > electrician to trouble shoot the problem. *
> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:16 AM, barristerla <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi folks:
> > >
> > > I'm new to the group. As you may have guessed by my "handle" I am an
> > > attorney. I am NOT, repeat, am NOT looking for business here.
> > > I could use some input from you folks though.
> > >
> > > I currently have a client who claims to have issues with his2008 Duffy 18
> > > Snug Harbor craft. More specifically, he claims that he has issues with the
> > > readout on his Digital Energy Gauge. It does not appear to show the proper
> > > time remaining even when initially charged and going forward, during use. He
> > > feels he cannot depend on it and if he did he may end up stranded at sea.
> > >
> > > I have searched the net and not really seen any other folks having these
> > > problems. Are any of you experiencing this issue or do you know anyone who
> > > is? Usually I expect at least some smoke before I believe there is a fire...
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for your thoughtful responses.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Scott Kaufman
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *George Johnson
> > GeoMar Logistics
> > Jomtien, Chonburi
> > Thailand*
> >
>

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