Thursday, December 30, 2010

[Electric Boats] Re: Electric Kicker

 

Apparently, some people have swapped out the trolling motor prop in favour of a large model airplane prop to change the pitch and give a bit more push. Just a thought.

Victor

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, James Zagray <jzagray@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you Ned,
>
> Unfortunately I don't think these are going to work for me because they are
> not waterproof. The best solution for my application looks like a plug and
> receptacle. I'm leaning toward this one:
> http://www.cabelas.com/auto-boat-battery-accessories-ranger-style-trolling-motor-plug-receptacle-3.shtml?type=product&WT.tsrc=CSE&WT.mc_id=GoogleBaseUSA&WT.z_mc_id1=699783&rid=40&mr:trackingCode=B203DE51-F5D2-DF11-82EF-001B21631C34&mr:referralID=NA
> Since there are 2 wires for each motor and this is 4 prong, I should be able
> to wire them both through one plug.
>
> ~James
>
> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Ned Farinholt <nedfarinholt@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > James,
> > Here is a source for the Anderson connectors.
> >
> > http://www.solarseller.com/anderson_sb_quick_connect___disconnect_cable_connectors__accessories__stage_wiri.htm
> > Ned
> >
> > On Dec 29, 2010, at 10:33 PM, James Zagray wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Eric!
> >
> > I spent about half the day today searching for connectors, but didn't
> > run accross Andersons. I'll look them up for sure. I'll have a
> > difficult time locating them someplace dry unless they are narrow
> > enough to fit through a small hole in the hull. I've been looking at
> > plugs and receptacles made specifically for trolling motors, so
> > they're water tight. I'll figure something out.
> >
> > I really appreciate the research you did on my motors. I was
> > wondering how many amps they draw. Technical support at Minn Kota
> > wasn't much help because the motors are'nt designed for what I am
> > doing with them. They wouldn't suggest any kind of connector.
> >
> > I'll be interested in my watts to knots too! I would be very happy
> > with 4 or 5 knots.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > ~James
> >
> > On 12/29/10, Eric <ewdysar@... <ewdysar%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > > Hi James,
> > >
> > > I checked out the MinnKota website for specifics about your setup. It
> > looks
> > > like the dual motors have dual controllers and with the max amperage
> > listed
> > > as 116A @ 24V, I'll assume that each motor can draw almost 60A.
> > Therefore,
> > > you'll ant to make sure that each disconnect is rated for at least that
> > much
> > > current. Anderson SB connectors are what almost all EV people use, they
> > > come in 50A, 175A and 350A versions. Given your setup, I would go with
> > the
> > > 175A ones for each motor, just to be on the safe side of things. These
> > > connectors are not specifically waterproof, so you'll want to make sure
> > that
> > > they are located in a relatively protected area. MinnKota says that the
> > > motor leads are 12 feet long so locating the connectors should not be a
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > I don't know the typical efficiency of a trolling motor and prop setup
> > like
> > > you've got, however if it is close to what people are getting with
> > inboard
> > > installations you can expect about 4 knots from about 1000W (42A @ 24V).
> > > I'll be interested in your "watts to knots" numbers once you're up and
> > > running to compare your observed performance to other existing
> > conversions.
> > >
> > > Fair winds,
> > > Eric
> > > Marina del Rey, CA
> > >
> > > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com <electricboats%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "jameszagray" <jzagray@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Howdy! I joined your group because I am on a quest to eliminate the use
> > >> of a gas engine as a "kicker" on my 1974 Aquarious-23 sailboat. I bought
> > >> a Minn Kota, 24v, 160 lb. thrust, dual engine mount motor, and have just
> > >> finished mounting it to the bottom part of an old Johnson outboard with
> > >> the power head removed. For now, I'm going to run 2 12v deep cycle
> > >> batteries wired for 24v, charged by 2 12v, 30w solar panels, also wired
> > >> for 24v. The plan is to someday add at least 2 more batteries and 2 more
> > >> solar panels. Right now, the boat is wired to run the 65 lb. Minn Kota I
> > >> used last season from a plug on the transom. I need to figure out how to
> > >> run cables and disconnects for my new system so I can easily take the
> > >> motor off the boat for trailering.
> > >>
> > >> I'll be posting pictures of what I have so far in the album "Electric
> > >> Kicker". I would love to have input, comments and advise from those of
> > >> you with experience.
> > >>
> > >> Happy sailing!
> > >> ~James
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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