Thursday, July 11, 2019

Re: [Electric Boats] Re: 48V ELECTRIC OUTBOARD

 

I have had two dealings with Torqeedo over the five years I have owned there outboard. Both where positive experiences. 

The first time I contacted them because I left my motor kicked up while attached to the Davits, and my boat was to close to the sea wall. I forgot about that and went to bed, the motor beat on the sea wall all night with the full weight of my 13 ton cabin cruiser behind it.  Amazingly beside some dents to the sacrificial skeg and a broken swing bracket the motor was in great shape. I ordered a new swing bracket, it came within a week and I then email them some questions about installing it and a support engineer called me back right away and walked me through installing it.  So there support was top notch, and fast. Motor ran like new again. 

The second time I had dealings with them was this year, I have one of the early models of the Travel 1003, they had a recall on some of the early battery packs. They emailed me and notified me of the recall, and then within days mailed me a box to ship it back to them in. Then the very next day after the box showed up a truck came by to get it and the battery. They shipped it back a week later repaired.  

 So also a positive experience. Most companies you have to contact them to get a recall started.  So as a company I like them a lot, easy to work with, fast and efficient. 

So if I don't buy another Torqeedo in the future it will be about price not product quality or company culture.  Those two items they have high praise from me about.  

If a the 900 watt hour replacement battery did not cost a thousand buck, I might not be considering someone else to begin with.  ;-) 

On Jul 11, 2019, at 5:03 PM, Michael Ryan mryanqld@gmail.com [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Made In Germany! Buyer beware. This was a mark of quality in latter years and the more unscrupulous German manufacturers are still trading on that reputation. The reality is that now German manufactures can use foreign raw and processed materials, components, and poorly paid labour in third world companies and still claim it is Made In Germany.. The reality is that the finishing touches or assembly is the only thing that happens in Germany. I believe that a robust and well implemented quality management plan is more important than where an item is produced. Great stuff comes out of China if you are prepared to pay the higher prices for quality. As another example, Sevcon is a British company but the Gen4 controllers are made in Poland. Sevcon have a reputation for quality and I assume that their  quality management plan maintains tight control on sub suppliers. I would hope for Torqueedo prices they are doing the same.

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 12:56 AM oak oak_box@yahoo.com [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I would still like to see a side by side test on the real physical performance of the motors.
I would hope that the cheap knock-off works.  But I would be very skeptical that it provides as much power as the Torqeedo.

If you just have a small dingy to push back and forth to the dock, then either might be fine, in which case it would be silly to overspend by 4x - just by a complete backup set and save 2x!  :)

I personally think the Torqeedo's are overpriced.  However - they are great motors (I have two, and am VERY happy with the motors).

If I had more time and money, I'd love to get one of the cheap ones and compare the two!

John

On Thursday, July 11, 2019, 09:39:55 AM CDT, Berlouin Fred berlouin@yahoo.com [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 



Hello James

Yes, that is it!!!

Battery from HK at US $132.50 plus shipping

Outboard at US $315 included shipping.

So, I paid US $500 the system. If your Torquedo was $2000, you paid 4 times more.

I got a 1000w motor instead of 480w?

48v torque instead of 24v

13S Lithium is 54.6V  x 15amps = 819w battery instead of the Torquedo  " nominal 29.6v " of 18 amps  = 530 Wh  battery. The other Torquedo 915 Wh Li-Ion battery is  (29.6 V / 31 Ah)  at $815

 

 

So, yes, I have 50% more power, more range, more speed and more torque for a quarter of the price! Sorry… never too late to learn I believe.

Next time, don't buy a 6v screwdriver for the price of 24v drill because you read " Made in Germany". I hope you appreciate my humor.

Best regards. Fred
On Thursday, July 11, 2019, 04:47:59 PM GMT+12, lightdoesnotage@yahoo.com [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Heck the 915 watt-hr battery is only $815 at Defender.




Worst Marine kind of sucks on prices



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Kind regards Mick 0414 264 312

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