Thursday, August 13, 2015

Re: [Electric Boats] Just a thought

 

Hi Group,

I just saw a Torqeedo 2 at the consignment shop in Mystic, CT just a couple of days ago.... It looked quite new with all the paperwork... asking price is $1,200...

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Jerry

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Michael Dellario dellariom@yahoo.com [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Len...
The Torqueedo's are pretty high price but you may find a Torqueedo Cruise 2.0 (6HP) for a pretty good price if you dig around.  I would suggest calling Torqueedo directly at their Chicago office.  They have changed the 2.0 and 4.0 for a new version designed with more metal for more commercial use and they are quietly closing out the older styles.  Still a bit pricey but a pretty complete systems system if you are not electrically inclined.  
I have a venture 17 without the centerboard and ballast weight was replaced by batteries and love it. 
Good luck




On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:56 AM, "oak oak_box@yahoo.com [electricboats]" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
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Len,

The Torqeedo motors can easily be purchased from a variety of sources, including West Marine, Defender, and Jamestown Distributors.

Yes, they are a bit pricey.  The Torqeedo 1003 is around $2000 and the Torqeedo 2 is around $3300-3500.  Then there are batteries...  You really should consider high quality, high amperage AGM batteries (if not Lithium - which will be even more expensive, but perhaps a reasonable tradeoff, depending on what you plan to do).

I've used both the Torqeedo 2 and 4 on a Catalina 22, and can tell you they're great motors.  Lots of power, seem to be very reliable.  The biggest downside is that they are really expensive.  But you get a great solution that you just plug in to a battery and go.

Good luck!
John


From: "captnlen trikini2008@embarqmail.com [electricboats]" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 8:41 AM
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Thanks for the info.  The boat has a bare hull weight in CB version 0f 820 lbs.  The keel version was 960 with a 320 lb keel so I figure the CB version has some ballast.

Since this hull was a keel and doesn't have a CB trunk I have some room to add ballast for stability.

I am at the opposite end of the country. South Central FL and would use it on two lakes Of maybe 5000 acres, that have ramps within a mile of house.

What would be the cost of either of the motors. Got a feeling they are going to be outside my price range since live on a fixed budget (SS)

GPS and computers seem overkill for this usage.

Here is the boat as I have it and as it was new

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On 8/4/2015 9:26 AM, mike@electricyachtssocal.com [electricboats] wrote:
Capt. Len,
Thought I would answer you note in the user forum.
 
This is the data on the boat:
Hull Type:  Centerboard Dinghy     
Rig Type: Fractional Sloop
LOA: 18.00' / 5.49m   
LWL: 17.00' / 5.18m
Beam:  6.25' / 1.91m     
Disp. 1050 lbs./ 476 kgs.
 
This is a speed and power table that I modified for your light displacement:
 
Speed & Power                 
Kts          Amps    Watts
1.9          4              192
2.9          6              288
3.9          10           480
4.9          20           960         you will reach hull speed at about 1200 watts
6.2          40           1920       You would see adequate reserve power with a 2kW motor
Hull speed           5.52       
 
I would recommend up to a 2.5hp outboard as being very adequate.  In the electric world I see two choices for you:
 
Torqeedo Travel 1003 adjustable shaft tiller is a robust, efficient electric outboard with built in Lithium battery pack. The 1003 has a high efficiency battery capacity, and an on-board-computer (including GPS and real-time range calculation). Torqeedo rates it as a 3 HP output but in a sailboat plying open ocean or lake, I would think it is more like a 1.5hp. 
 
Torqeedo's Cruise 2.0 long shaft remote control motor a robust, efficient electric outboard with a 24v battery pack in the boat. The Cruise 2.0 has an on-board-computer (including GPS and real-time range calculation). Torqeedo rates it as a 5 HP output but in a sailboat plying open ocean or lake, I would think it is more like a 3hp.  Traditional batteries or Lithium batteries can be used on this motor so that you can position the batteries to the best effect in the boat.

Both Torqeedo outboard us a very efficient slow propeller that may have some deformity in a negative sea state but would likely be adequate for your light boat.

Mike  sv Fluke
Electric Yacht Southern California / Pacific
 

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