Saturday, June 11, 2011

Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Want to Put an E-drive System into a Ranger 29 Sailboat in SF Bay

 

Jim:
 
Sounds like your needs are well suited for an EP system. I converted my 30 foot 16,000 lb Sailboat in 2008 but, used an ASMO MARINE Thoosa 9000 system. Which I am very happy with. I have the conversion process I went through starting here: http://biankablog.blogspot.com/2008/05/going-electric.html
Going with a turnkey system made it a pretty painless process but, you are paying extra for the convience of the engineered system. My advice is if you are going to put a system together yourself and you certainly sound like you have the skill set to do it. I would pay particuar attention to making sure the controller is properly heat sinked and has good air flow around it. 
Capt. Mike

--- On Sun, 6/12/11, aweekdaysailor <aweekdaysailor@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: aweekdaysailor <aweekdaysailor@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Electric Boats] Re: Want to Put an E-drive System into a Ranger 29 Sailboat in SF Bay
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, June 12, 2011, 12:50 AM

 
Hi Jim,

I converted a 30' '78 Hunter, and sail SF bay. Details here:

https://sites.google.com/site/electricboating/

Solar is pretty much a waste of money unless you can cover every square inch of your deck (otoh, you can probably go off-grid with a wind-genny in our area - I did the math once, and if you go out 1/week it works).

Pay close attention to the section on tides :) It's like the Marines..."No better friend; no greater enemy"

-Keith
(p.s. PM me if you want to go out some time and see what it's like)

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, jim_ranger_26 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Just joined the fray and wanted to get in contact with others whom have done conversions of sailboats (Ranger 29, in my case) with an existing dead Atomic 4 engine. I read the article in the June 2011 Good Old Boat where Joe Steinberger converted a Tripp/Lentsch 29 to an e-drive, and he provides a list of components and suppliers, but, he didn't go into any detail about how the components were chosen, what trade-offs he made, where he obtained details and specs for the components and how to hook them together, or how to evaluate other options.
>
> In looking briefly at the files and links section here, it appears that a bunch of marketing info has been dumped in mostly by suppliers/vendors, along with a plethora of links to a wide range of equipment and enthusiastic hyperbole, but, I haven't seen anything obviously labeled something like "Start Here". I'm an ocean engineer and computer scientist, so, I'm quite capable of understanding the technical details, and could design and install a system from scratch, given enough time with a McMaster-Carr catalog. However, I was hoping to come up with a variation of something someone else already has working for a sailboat similar in size to mine, and to replace an in-board engine.
>
> Since the Atomic 4 engine in my boat was DOA when I bought the boat, and its problems are too difficult to diagnose, much less repair, down in the bilge, I plan to pull it and do an overhaul in a much more comfortable location where I already have all of the needed tools, parts, etc. However, it's going to be a part-time effort (especially now that the weather is so nice), so, I wanted to just drop the components for an e-drive system in, connect it to the shaft, and be able to get in and out of the berth/channel into SF Bay from Marina Village in Oakland. I'll only need a minute, or so, of drive time to get between my slip and the channel, and occasionally, I may need up to 20 minutes of drive time if the wind is coming directly down the channel and I don't feel like tacking every 30 seconds.
>
> Steinberger gets up to four hours at three knots, and up to two hours at four knots, which would allow me to get anywhere in the SF Bay area when/where sailing would be difficult. Are there significantly different options from the components listed in Steinberger's article, or is that a reasonable-enough solution that I can just go with it? Here's what he used:
>
> Motenergy (nee Mars) Electric ME0201013601 brushless motor $450
>
> TeamDelta RCM187 Etek motor mount $ 60
>
> Kelly KBS48101 brushless motor controller $200
>
> Crydom solid-state relay $100
>
> ProStar PS-15M-48V solar charge controller $200
>
> Suntech 20-watt, 24-volt solar panels (2 each) $140
>
> Kelly HWZ Series 48-to-12-volt, 300-watt converter
> (for ship's power) $130
>
> Kelly F4815 48-volt, 15-amp battery charger
> (for charging from shorepower) $200
>
>
> Thanks for any pointers, and hope to be able to find anyone with a similarly-sized converted sailboat so we can compare notes, and if you're on the West Coast, perhaps we can meet so you can show off what you've done.
>
> Thanks a boatload, and All the Best!
> Jim
>

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