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Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Group will bepractically closed by yahoo in very few days

 

Thanks

That is great.

Cheers

Mich

On Fri., 1 Nov. 2019, 13:06 willmarsh3@gmail.com [electricboats], <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I'm beginning the process of transferring the contents of a small group that I own and moderate.  I'm transferring it to groups.io.  I had to purchase the yearly premium plan for $220 to do it.  I have started the initial steps of the transfer process.  It appears it will take at least a couple of days.  Groups.io stated that transfers not started by December 1 might not be guaranteed to occur before Yahoo deletes its group content.  They appear to have quite a workload on their hands.


I will keep posted my progress.

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[Electric Boats] Re: Group will bepractically closed by yahoo in very few days

 

I'm beginning the process of transferring the contents of a small group that I own and moderate.  I'm transferring it to groups.io.  I had to purchase the yearly premium plan for $220 to do it.  I have started the initial steps of the transfer process.  It appears it will take at least a couple of days.  Groups.io stated that transfers not started by December 1 might not be guaranteed to occur before Yahoo deletes its group content.  They appear to have quite a workload on their hands.


I will keep posted my progress.

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Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Battery Bank Charging

 

Seems like most use bulk chargers when underway & need to use a generator to extend range. I had suspected my Dual Pro charging each battery in the string independently wasn't up to the task, Pat kind of confirmed this. 

Thinking about it, makes sense to me. Only way I can verify it is to try it. That'll have to wait till next season:(


On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 11:26 PM, oak oak_box@yahoo.com [electricboats]
<electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Just curious - what was the answer that you got (and verified?)?   Was it that the charger didn't like the batteries being under load while charging?

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019, 02:00:19 AM CDT, bob jennings sabre281@yahoo.com [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

I got my answer thanks to Capt. Mike & Tom Hurby from a post on the electric seas site. So never mind lol


On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 2:12 PM, bob jennings
<sabre281@yahoo.com> wrote:

When I motor with the generator on seems like I do not get alot out of my Dual Pro 4 charger that chargers each battery independently in order to extend range. So I was thinking of adding a 25 amp Quick Charger because it charges the whole string in series. 

For those that have motoring down pat, do you charge in series with your generator & how's that worked out for you far as extending range without depleting the  battery bank?

Thanks,

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Wednesday, October 30, 2019

[Electric Boats] Re: Group will bepractically closed by yahoo in very few days

 

>I would be happy to store the forum data/metadata on our servers if that
>helps.
>Thanks,
>j

I'll get in touch directly in a few days. I'm in the SF Bay area and my
ISP is really slow right now, probably infrastructure impact from the
fires, the archiving is going great, just really slow and tedious. I am
almost finished archiving a group that goes back to Jan 2000 and it took
14 hours to download approx 16,000 photos and 3 hours for about 1/3rd of
the messages. As soon as that group is finished I'll start archiving
Electric Boats.

--Tim

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Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Yahoo Groups

 

Kev/Tim/Jeff et al.
Re goups.io - Kev, I think the issues you note are an important consideration. The groups files currently take up about 2 GB, however depending how group activity progresses and with photo resolution (and therefore file sizes) ever increasing, I think the 10GB limit is a problem too.

Re: Archive - Tim, I've archived the group (didn't want to risk losing it if there wasn't a consensus here before yahoo started to delete) using https://github.com/IgnoredAmbience/yahoo-group-archiver and happy to say it works quite well. I've put the resulting files here: http://eb.ip8.org/archive/ temporarily if anyone wants to see what was saved. Email content, Photos, Files, etc all seem to be in good shape. Importing the resulting archive to another platform would take some work.... and I believe some of the data isn't archived because I'm not set as a moderator on the yahoo group. Myles, if you make me a moderator here, I should be able to figure out archiving the full data. And... apparently, for moderators, Yahoo has recently put together some sort of export tool, however I'm not sure what kind of data that tool produces.

Re: Next steps - Jeff, I'm happy to work on this with you and anyone else interested in moving to a new platform, I've been working with web applications & unix boxes for 20+ years. There's a lot of possible forum / mailing list platforms we can use, the first thing in my mind is to get an understanding of how the group uses the existing group features, and what additional features (if any) might be interesting for the next iteration. Main question has to do with how members access/reply to messages (email or web). To that end, I've put together a quick survey (should take literally a minute to fill out, just a couple questions) here: https://forms..gle/Y964aSyPqXfSJaf18 , everyone who's interested in this discussion, please take a minute to fill that out. I'll share back the results with the group after 24 hours or so.

In the meantime, I'm mindful that we're hitting thousands of email boxes with this thread. If there was a wish by other members/moderator, to move this to a regular email thread with everyone interested in working on it, please let me know. We could do that and report back to the group once a direction has become clear . On the other hand, due to the significant nature of the discussion, everyone might prefer to have the discussion continue on the full list. Either is fine with me.

Thanks. Roland





On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 11:45 PM Jeff LaCoursiere jeff@jeff.net [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 


Someone mentioned they had access to forum software.  I run hundreds of servers - I could easily put the forum up on our infrastructure.  Sorry I didn't save that post... would they be willing to work with me to stand it up and give it a kick?

j

On 10/29/19 8:33 AM, DAN HENNIS dhennis@centurytel.net [electricboats] wrote:
 
Thanks Jeff,

I did look into the .io site.  Though it doesn't liik like facecrap, I am holding my final judgement til I see where things go.  I now have a page of both it and the EBA open on my computer, I didn't see a forum like this one at either.  I must be slow too...

Dan

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff LaCoursiere jeff@jeff.net [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 08:34:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Yahoo Groups





 

I'm not (too) old, but I feel exactly
t he same.  Facebook is the root of most of the evil in the world
today, and I won't have any part of it if I can help it.

j

On 10/27/19 2:07 PM, DAN HENNIS
dhennis@centurytel.net [electricboats] wrote:
 
This may be all god and fine for all you
"Twitchy-Face-crap-labotamised" folk, but some of us (i
think older folk) don't do that crowd.  As for myself, If
I have to open a face-crap account, I will kindly say my
adieus here and now.  I have successfully stayed out of
social media, and although I really like this group and
the we alth of information and news-worthy updated
contained herein.  I firmly resist joining any social
clubs.  I am too old and have too much of a private life
of my own, to be staring at a computer screen into
everybody elses.  Sorry if I offended, but I felt it
needed to be said.  I wish you all well in the final
direction you go.

Best regards,
Dan H.



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From: rob@paperclip.org.uk [electricboats]
<electricboats@yahoogroups.com>

To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com

Sen t: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 15:51:09 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: [Electric Boats] Re: Yahoo Groups





 

The logical forum to move to is this: supported by
the Electric Boat Association:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/electricboatsandships/





--
Dan Hennis
CTR Services
P.O. Box 254
14237 FR 1155
Cassville, MO  65625-0254
417-396-0228






--
Dan Hennis
CTR Services
P.O. Box 254
14237 FR 1155
Cassville, MO  65625-0254
417-396-0228


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Re: [Electric Boats] Group will bepractically closed by yahoo in very few days

 

My name is Dave Kellogg
I've been a member of this group almost the 19 years it's been around and have learned and enjoyed the sharing
Of experience from everyone. Health has not allowed me to continue with all my projects but I wanted to thank Myles and
All that have been working hard to keep the information flowing.

Dave kellogg. 30 ft ChrisCraft electric powered
On Wednesday, October 30, 2019, 2:18:03 PM EDT, Jeff LaCoursiere jeff@jeff.net [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:





I would be happy to store the forum data/metadata on our servers if that helps.

Thanks,

j

On 10/27/19 4:18 PM, Roland Wells roland.wells@gmail.com [electricboats] wrote:
 
Jeff / Myles, I would be happy to help with export/import if needed, (at the very least to make sure we can export the group archive so it can be accessible if/when the next platform is chosen)




On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 2:41 PM 'Myles Twete' matwete@comcast.net [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Jeff (and the rest of you good folks J)

 

I've been the main moderator here now on the Yahoo Electric Boats forum for something like 14 years now…?

I understand the situation we face.

I have 3 forums at Yahoo, 2 of which I started and one (this one) that was handed over to me.

Yes, the Groups.IO option is a sweet one---I have long been a member of one group there that migrated from Yahoo years ago.  As I understand, the entire group contents can be migrated to Groups.IO, but only after paying a premium to do so----that was something like $125 but in the past week Groups.IO has supposedly bumped that up to $250 or so to transfer the data..

I am not inclined to pay that sum to migrate either of the 2 forums that I started.  This forum is different, has 10x the members of ElectricBoating on Yahoo and all that.  And yet, I don't see it a $250 value proposition for me to migrate even the data from this forum.

 

Jeff, since you started the new Electric Boats forum on Groups.IO, you could step up to that plate and make this happen (if I make you moderator of this forum).  Any thoughts on this?

 

-Myles Twete, Portland, Or.

www.evalbum.com/492

 

From: electricboats@yahoogroups.com [mailto:electricboats@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 10:57 AM
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Group will bepractically closed by yahoo in very few days

 

 

I started a group on Groups.io called electric boats.

 

I do not think I would have the time to run it in the long term, but I thought it was best to get it done for now so that it is an option for everyone if the Yahoo Groups becomes a problem after the transition.

 

Jeff Butler

 

 

On Oct 25, 2019, at 2:36 PM, izxjm3ivgp7jdyh4ul6ioq62u53e352e3366oxcw@yahoo.com [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

I find no sign in this group, that a move to a different location (e. g. "groups.io") is considered or done.

 

Look at the top of this site:

 

Attention: Starting December 14, 2019 Yahoo Groups will no longer host user created content on its sites. New content can no longer be uploaded after October 28, 2019. Sending/Receiving email functionality is not going away, you can continue to communicate via any email client with your group members. Learn More

 

 

 




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Re: [Electric Boats] Group will bepractically closed by yahoo in very few days

 


I would be happy to store the forum data/metadata on our servers if that helps.

Thanks,

j

On 10/27/19 4:18 PM, Roland Wells roland.wells@gmail.com [electricboats] wrote:
 
Jeff / Myles, I would be happy to help with export/import if needed, (at the very least to make sure we can export the group archive so it can be accessible if/when the next platform is chosen)




On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 2:41 PM 'Myles Twete' matwete@comcast.net [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Jeff (and the rest of you good folks J)

 

I've been the main moderator here now on the Yahoo Electric Boats forum for something like 14 years now…?

I understand the situation we face.

I have 3 forums at Yahoo, 2 of which I started and one (this one) that was handed over to me.

Yes, the Groups.IO option is a sweet one---I have long been a member of one group there that migrated from Yahoo years ago.  As I understand, the entire group contents can be migrated to Groups.IO, but only after paying a premium to do so----that was something like $125 but in the past week Groups.IO has supposedly bumped that up to $250 or so to transfer the data.

I am not inclined to pay that sum to migrate either of the 2 forums that I started.  This forum is different, has 10x the members of ElectricBoating on Yahoo and all that.  And yet, I don't see it a $250 value proposition for me to migrate even the data from this forum.

 

Jeff, since you started the new Electric Boats forum on Groups.IO, you could step up to that plate and make this happen (if I make you moderator of this forum).  Any thoughts on this?

 

-Myles Twete, Portland, Or.

www.evalbum.com/492

 

From: electricboats@yahoogroups.com [mailto:electricboats@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 10:57 AM
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Electric Boats] Group will bepractically closed by yahoo in very few days

 

 

I started a group on Groups.io called electric boats.

 

I do not think I would have the time to run it in the long term, but I thought it was best to get it done for now so that it is an option for everyone if the Yahoo Groups becomes a problem after the transition.

 

Jeff Butler

 

 

On Oct 25, 2019, at 2:36 PM, izxjm3ivgp7jdyh4ul6ioq62u53e352e3366oxcw@yahoo.com [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

I find no sign in this group, that a move to a different location (e. g. "groups.io") is considered or done.

 

Look at the top of this site:

 

Attention: Starting December 14, 2019 Yahoo Groups will no longer host user created content on its sites. New content can no longer be uploaded after October 28, 2019. Sending/Receiving email functionality is not going away, you can continue to communicate via any email client with your group members. Learn More

 

 

 


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Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Yahoo Groups

 

I will use both for now.  Happy to try out groups.io.  Don't use FB much and may dump it altogether in the near future.

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:52 AM Jeff Butler jeff@electricboatassociation.ca [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi, I'm the guy who reserved the Groups io electricboats option. We'll hopefully have the transfer figured out shortly. 

Jeff

On Oct 27, 2019, at 11:56 PM, Henry Rose henry@macwizard.ca [electricboats] <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I have been a Mac consultant and database developer for twenty years, but I feel the same way about Facebook. I have stayed clear of FB thus far and will continue to do so. The Groups.io option sounds good to me and it sounds like Myles Twete can designate a new moderator. Sorry I can't take this on myself - health problems in my family.

Henry

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