Re: [electricboats] 15kW electric motors for Sailing Catamaran

It's telling how many people are considering, planning or actually making the move to hybrid or pure electric!  We are planning 2 x 12kW continuous, prob 48V, as parallel hybrids to our two 135hp diesels on straight shafts, 15+ kW lithium bank, 7-10kW solar array. This is on a 50' x 16' power catamaran displacing about 15 tonne. 

If we can find someone to assist we'll use the help, but otherwise will go DIY.

Always looking forward to hearing the progress of others!

Robert

On 27 Apr 2020, at 1:24 pm, Steven Chmura <contact@care2gosailing.org> wrote:

 First of all, wow, what an incredible daunting project.  Do you have a website or info on the progression of your project?

Not really able to offer advice, however, I am working on the planning aspect converting my 44' FP from ICE to electric. I'm now about 1 yr from conversion. But looking at around 10-12kw motors connecting to my existing sail drive. Based on conversations, considering 20-25kwh bank. I also am planning around a 3kw solar array. 

Anyways looking forward to following the progress and direction you go.

Steve

On Apr 19, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Rob Cave via groups.io <rob=careinvest.com.au@groups.io> wrote:

Greetings,

Reposting this topic the new group location with some photos. Hopefully some feedback or suggestions.,

Looking for advice on a 15kW 48V electric motors to fit to a Yanmar SD25 sail drive (new model of the SD20).

Application is an under construction 52' sailing catamaran.

Some broad boat parameters:

Ocean going world cruising catamaran – composite epoxy structure.

L 52', Draft 2' Weight approx. 8500kg / 19,000lb

Full electric propulsion, galley and other services including hot water.

Motors retractable: 2 x 15kw 48v + regen

Battery bank: circa 16kw 48v

House loads: 24V DC – Estimated peak approx. 3kw

Solar: circa 3kW.

16kW 48v DC gen set.

The plan is to fit motor to a Yanmar sail drive SD25 and complete unit be retractable. This involves a wet lower tube and a watertight inner tube with hull closure plate below the prop – motor and sail drive leg fitted to this at their join. We should be able to couple motor shaft to SD25 upper gear box shaft with a coupler and bolt units together without too many modifications. Be great to hear of others experience with this.

We are trying to limit motor voltage to 48V – makes batteries & solar easier plus ability to share bank via DCC converters & battery for house loads at 24V.

The boat will be light and shallow draft = easily driven. A similar 62' catamaran was fitted with 2 x OV SD15s and achieved over 9 knots in flat water so we believe 12 to 15kW motors will be adequate.

According to Vic Prop boat specs, twin 12kW (16hp) motors with RPM max of 2200 (2:1 gear reduction on SD25 so prop speed 1100 max.) & 3 blade 15" x 13" prop will yield a top speed of 8.92 kts which is fine.

We have looked at turn-key offerings from Bell marine, Oceanvolt & Electric yachts but none tick all our boxes so would like to have a crack at customizing our own solution.

Some motor options Ive stumbled across include:

1. Motenergy ME1302 or ME1616 Liquid cooled

2. Parker GVM210-100-DPW

3. Go cart or Elec motorcycle motors: Revolt, Zero, ???

Bearing in mind 48V supply and max RPM of around 2400, be grateful to get your thoughts on best motor and associated controller and any tips or constructive suggestions for our project.

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