Sunday, April 19, 2020

Re: [electricboats] 15kW electric motors for Sailing Catamaran

uhmm, forgive my intrusion here, but your criteria sound a bit optimistic.  Sorry if this view is off. I appreciate the optimism though.  I'll gladly sit back now and watch the other armchair engineers add their 2-cents worth, pro and con.  Love to see the discussion though.

Cheers,   

----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Cave <rob@careinvest.com.au>
To: electricboats@groups.io
Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:52:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [electricboats] 15kW electric motors for Sailing Catamaran

Greetings,

Reposting this topic the new group location with some photos. Hopefully some feedback or suggestions.,

Looking for advice on a 15kW 48V electric motors to fit to a Yanmar SD25 sail drive (new model of the SD20).

Application is an under construction 52' sailing catamaran.

Some broad boat parameters:

Ocean going world cruising catamaran – composite epoxy structure.

L 52', Draft 2' Weight approx. 8500kg / 19,000lb

Full electric propulsion, galley and other services including hot water.

Motors retractable: 2 x 15kw 48v + regen

Battery bank: circa 16kw 48v

House loads: 24V DC – Estimated peak approx. 3kw

Solar: circa 3kW.

16kW 48v DC gen set.

The plan is to fit motor to a Yanmar sail drive SD25 and complete unit be retractable. This involves a wet lower tube and a watertight inner tube with hull closure plate below the prop – motor and sail drive leg fitted to this at their join. We should be able to couple motor shaft to SD25 upper gear box shaft with a coupler and bolt units together without too many modifications. Be great to hear of others experience with this.

We are trying to limit motor voltage to 48V – makes batteries & solar easier plus ability to share bank via DCC converters & battery for house loads at 24V.

The boat will be light and shallow draft = easily driven. A similar 62' catamaran was fitted with 2 x OV SD15s and achieved over 9 knots in flat water so we believe 12 to 15kW motors will be adequate.

According to Vic Prop boat specs, twin 12kW (16hp) motors with RPM max of 2200 (2:1 gear reduction on SD25 so prop speed 1100 max.) & 3 blade 15" x 13" prop will yield a top speed of 8.92 kts which is fine.

We have looked at turn-key offerings from Bell marine, Oceanvolt & Electric yachts but none tick all our boxes so would like to have a crack at customizing our own solution.

Some motor options Ive stumbled across include:

1. Motenergy ME1302 or ME1616 Liquid cooled

2. Parker GVM210-100-DPW

3. Go cart or Elec motorcycle motors: Revolt, Zero, ???

Bearing in mind 48V supply and max RPM of around 2400, be grateful to get your thoughts on best motor and associated controller and any tips or constructive suggestions for our project.




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