Monday, February 26, 2018

Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Direct Drive QS Hub Motors

 

Peukert effect is almost a non issue with LiFeP04, as I understand it. I am not nearly as knowledgeable on lithium batteries as lead so maybe someone who has been running lithium batts for a while and has more in depth knowledge will chime in. And actually, if you run even lead batteries at the 20 hour discharge rate, you can ignore Peukert calculations since the capacity rating is based on the 20 hour discharge rate. Discharge at lower current, and you get out more energy than expected. Discharge at higher current, and you will get less. There is a moral in that somewhere.

Sounds like you have a very practical project started, if any boat project can be said to be practical. It should end up as a great harbor or river launch and trailer cruising sounds like great fun.


I am sure you will want a canopy or bimini of some sort, anyway. As an experiment you can always throw some plywood and equivelant weight of sandbags up there and see if she gets tippy or not, but I think a bit of solar would be fine. As an example, this 300w panel weighs just a bit over 40lbs. A couple of them on a frame that folds or lowers down for towing would be a fantastic range extender and at very low speeds you could go indefinitely. Batteries could even charge while on the trailer, so you would be ready to splash the boat without first charging from shore power. If nothing else, make a solar towing/storage cover for the boat and leave the panels behind when you take to the water. Anyway I would keep an open mind about solar charging in general.

---In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, <mryanqld@...> wrote :

His Majesty The King Of New Orleans.
Knowledgeable and great answers to my queries. Yes I am lucking in having a reasonable budget only because I sold my 40 foot yacht to downsize. The yacht incidentally came from Slidell L.A. post Katrina
The Sevcon controller is not a problem as it is beyond my IT skills to start programming controllers anyway. I also planned to order a Curtis bidirectional throttle, heat sink and Sevcon Clearview Display. Thunderstruck's reduction gear may be a bit flimsy as provided but I will be custom mounting it myself.I intend to brace it with some stainless steel diagonal angle struts as well.The Bukh diesel engine bed has been removed to allow the set up of a new bed to take the reduction plate. The Nordic can carry the weight as I have removed 230 kg of ballast and 180 kg of engine. The roomy and relatively deep bilge is another reason why I selected the Nordic.  Good advice about separating the battery cells, I may have the room to do that. Undecided about solar panels as the weight up top may be a problem and I intend to trailer it to different waterways. Had a look at your website and found it entertaining and very informative especially your explanation of Mr Puekerts law. Am I correct in that this law may not apply to LiFEPO4 batteries. I have also taken the liberty of posting Matt's and your URL in my recently set up blog detailing the conversion of the my Nordic. Link below! Thanks Mick



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