Sunday, December 14, 2014

[Electric Boats] Re: Charging house and propulsion batteries

 

The 72v requirement is a difficult one to address.  There is often a significant cost associated with any 72v charging system.  This is what we see in the market for AC based chargers:
QuickCharge - SCO7220 - a 20amp at 72v - costing less then $500 - not legal in California
Elcon - several systems TCCH-72-16, TCCH-72-23, TCCH-72-28, TCCH-72-32,
TCCH-72-56 - legal in California
I do not know if there are any switchable multiple voltage solar.
Mike sv Fluke  Electric Yachts of Southern California

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Re: [Electric Boats]Charging house and propulsion batteries

 

In my experience with land-based EVs, a DC-DC converter would be used to
step down the voltage from the propulsion pack to the accessory / house
battery system.

With a 72-volt motor, I am assuming you are planning for a 72-volt
battery system. Doesn't really matter, principle remains the same, but
the input voltage rating changes. However, for illustrative purposes,
something like this might do the job.

http://www.powerstream.com/dc-72v-12v-15a-extreme.htm

(Disclaimer: I have no knowledge of this company or their products;
they just popped first with appropriate content in my web search.)

There are other companies with similar products. Marine rating is not
typical. You can pay less, and presumably get less.

Typical installation is to build your propulsion pack to ensure it is
appropriate to your needs - including a couple of test cruises - and
establish your charging system for that pack. (I recommend a
shore-power option in addition to intermittent sources). I expect your
current wind/solar charging set-up will have to be augmented to charge a
propulsion pack in addition to the current house battery.

Once you are happy with your propulsion pack, and have a sense of how
much power you need to move to the house pack on a continuous / regular
basis, then you can size and order the DC to DC converter. I recommend
you find a unit which can be turned off with an internal switch, rather
than having to be disconnected. Handy when the boat goes into storage
to save your propulsion pack from being drained down to zero.

Also, be aware, Coast Guard electrical safety guidelines become more
stringent if you are using a system rated for higher than 48-volts nominal.

Hope this helps,

Darryl McMahon

On 14/12/2014 3:39 AM, electricboats@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> 2a. Charging house and propulsion batteries Posted
> by:jasonners@me.com jsonners Date: Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:58 pm ((PST))
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> I have an electric sailboat which currently has solar and wind
> generation. Currently this charging system only charges the house
> batteries.
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> Does anyone know a way or specific product I can use to charge both
> systems simultaneously or at least be able to shift back and forth
> between both systems?
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> I have a 72 V motor

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Darryl McMahon
Freelance Project Manager

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Saturday, December 13, 2014

Re: [Electric Boats] Charging house and propulsion batteries

 

My boat is small
I have a 36 volt drive system in my boat with  a 22 Ah battery pack at 36Volts
Also an 11 Ah house system(only need it for lights and Hifi).
I have both systems charged by solar.
I installed 8 10 watt panels.
6 connected to the drive system and 2 to the house system.

When I was designing my system, the only other option I could think of was to run a 12v inverter and then use a charger to charge the 36V system.
I didn't want to have the losses by inverting and then changing back to 36V.

10 watt panels only deliver about .5 amps in good light. They keep my boat charged. I only use it for short distance though.

Mark

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Subject: [Electric Boats] Charging house and propulsion batteries

 
I have an electric sailboat which currently has solar and wind generation. Currently this charging system only charges the house batteries.

Does anyone know a way or specific product I can use to charge both systems simultaneously or at least be able to shift back and forth between both systems?

I have a 72 V motor

THANKS!!!
Jason


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Thursday, December 11, 2014

[Electric Boats] Charging house and propulsion batteries

 

I have an electric sailboat which currently has solar and wind generation. Currently this charging system only charges the house batteries.


Does anyone know a way or specific product I can use to charge both systems simultaneously or at least be able to shift back and forth between both systems?

I have a 72 V motor

THANKS!!!
Jason

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Saturday, December 6, 2014

[Electric Boats] Oceanvolt sd

 

Does anyone have any knowledge or experience of oceanvolt's systems?  Especially the sail drive.

It looks very impressive, and great regen figures.  I suppose they are pricey, I did email them asking a price some days ago but no reply so far.  How would they compare to US systems?

John.

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Thursday, December 4, 2014

[Electric Boats] Re: 48V Windlass

 

Hey Group,

I finally got around to getting my new 24VDC windlass running off of my 48VDC propulsion bank. I accomplished this by using an Alltrax SPM series motor controller. Thanks, Arby for the suggestion! I have uploaded my wiring diagram to the files section. I'd be happy to share my controller configuration files and experience if someone wants to do this.


Regards,

Chris

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