On 1/3/11, James Zagray <jzagray@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll keep that in mind Victor, but at this point I haven't even
> finished putting together what I've got!
> ~James
>
> On 1/2/11, vjmtymo <vjmtymo@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> I can't recall exactly where in cyberspace I read about the model plane
>> prop
>> but if I come across the comment, I'll post it here. You could drop by a
>> model RC store, pick out something to start with and entertain yourself
>> by
>> adapting and experimenting. Who knows, you might come up with a fresh
>> idea
>> or something.
>>
>> Victor
>>
>> --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, James Zagray <jzagray@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Victor,
>>>
>>> Any idea which specific model plane prop it is and where it can be
>>> found?
>>>
>>> You have to wonder about this kind of thing. You would think that Minn
>>> Kota
>>> has put a lot of R & D behind their props, and I'm sure they will tell
>>> you
>>> that what they have supplied with the motor is the best trade-off
>>> between
>>> thrust and energy efficiency. If I find I need a bit more power, I'll
>>> look
>>> into changing the props.
>>>
>>> ~James
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 10:08 AM, vjmtymo <vjmtymo@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Apparently, some people have swapped out the trolling motor prop in
>>> > favour
>>> > of a large model airplane prop to change the pitch and give a bit more
>>> > push.
>>> > Just a thought.
>>> >
>>> > Victor
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com
>>> > <electricboats%40yahoogroups.com>,
>>> > James Zagray <jzagray@> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Thank you Ned,
>>> > >
>>> > > Unfortunately I don't think these are going to work for me because
>>> > > they
>>> > are
>>> > > not waterproof. The best solution for my application looks like a
>>> > > plug
>>> > and
>>> > > receptacle. I'm leaning toward this one:
>>> > >
>>> > http://www.cabelas.com/auto-boat-battery-accessories-ranger-style-trolling-motor-plug-receptacle-3.shtml?type=product&WT.tsrc=CSE&WT.mc_id=GoogleBaseUSA&WT.z_mc_id1=699783&rid=40&mr:trackingCode=B203DE51-F5D2-DF11-82EF-001B21631C34&mr:referralID=NA
>>> > > Since there are 2 wires for each motor and this is 4 prong, I should
>>> > > be
>>> > able
>>> > > to wire them both through one plug.
>>> > >
>>> > > ~James
>>> > >
>>> > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Ned Farinholt <nedfarinholt@>wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > James,
>>> > > > Here is a source for the Anderson connectors.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > http://www.solarseller.com/anderson_sb_quick_connect___disconnect_cable_connectors__accessories__stage_wiri.htm
>>> > > > Ned
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Dec 29, 2010, at 10:33 PM, James Zagray wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Thanks Eric!
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I spent about half the day today searching for connectors, but
>>> > > > didn't
>>> > > > run accross Andersons. I'll look them up for sure. I'll have a
>>> > > > difficult time locating them someplace dry unless they are narrow
>>> > > > enough to fit through a small hole in the hull. I've been looking
>>> > > > at
>>> > > > plugs and receptacles made specifically for trolling motors, so
>>> > > > they're water tight. I'll figure something out.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I really appreciate the research you did on my motors. I was
>>> > > > wondering how many amps they draw. Technical support at Minn Kota
>>> > > > wasn't much help because the motors are'nt designed for what I am
>>> > > > doing with them. They wouldn't suggest any kind of connector.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I'll be interested in my watts to knots too! I would be very happy
>>> > > > with 4 or 5 knots.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Thanks again,
>>> > > > ~James
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On 12/29/10, Eric <ewdysar@ <ewdysar%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>> > > > > Hi James,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I checked out the MinnKota website for specifics about your
>>> > > > > setup.
>>> > > > > It
>>> > > > looks
>>> > > > > like the dual motors have dual controllers and with the max
>>> > > > > amperage
>>> > > > listed
>>> > > > > as 116A @ 24V, I'll assume that each motor can draw almost 60A.
>>> > > > Therefore,
>>> > > > > you'll ant to make sure that each disconnect is rated for at
>>> > > > > least
>>> > that
>>> > > > much
>>> > > > > current. Anderson SB connectors are what almost all EV people
>>> > > > > use,
>>> > they
>>> > > > > come in 50A, 175A and 350A versions. Given your setup, I would
>>> > > > > go
>>> > with
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > > 175A ones for each motor, just to be on the safe side of things.
>>> > These
>>> > > > > connectors are not specifically waterproof, so you'll want to
>>> > > > > make
>>> > sure
>>> > > > that
>>> > > > > they are located in a relatively protected area. MinnKota says
>>> > > > > that
>>> > the
>>> > > > > motor leads are 12 feet long so locating the connectors should
>>> > > > > not
>>> > > > > be
>>> > a
>>> > > > > problem.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I don't know the typical efficiency of a trolling motor and prop
>>> > setup
>>> > > > like
>>> > > > > you've got, however if it is close to what people are getting
>>> > > > > with
>>> > > > inboard
>>> > > > > installations you can expect about 4 knots from about 1000W (42A
>>> > > > > @
>>> > 24V).
>>> > > > > I'll be interested in your "watts to knots" numbers once you're
>>> > > > > up
>>> > and
>>> > > > > running to compare your observed performance to other existing
>>> > > > conversions.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Fair winds,
>>> > > > > Eric
>>> > > > > Marina del Rey, CA
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > --- In
>>> > > > > electricboats@yahoogroups.com<electricboats%40yahoogroups.com><electricboats%
>>> > 40yahoogroups.com>,
>>> >
>>> > > > "jameszagray" <jzagray@> wrote:
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> Howdy! I joined your group because I am on a quest to eliminate
>>> > > > >> the
>>> > use
>>> > > > >> of a gas engine as a "kicker" on my 1974 Aquarious-23 sailboat.
>>> > > > >> I
>>> > bought
>>> > > > >> a Minn Kota, 24v, 160 lb. thrust, dual engine mount motor, and
>>> > > > >> have
>>> > just
>>> > > > >> finished mounting it to the bottom part of an old Johnson
>>> > > > >> outboard
>>> > with
>>> > > > >> the power head removed. For now, I'm going to run 2 12v deep
>>> > > > >> cycle
>>> > > > >> batteries wired for 24v, charged by 2 12v, 30w solar panels,
>>> > > > >> also
>>> > wired
>>> > > > >> for 24v. The plan is to someday add at least 2 more batteries
>>> > > > >> and
>>> > > > >> 2
>>> > more
>>> > > > >> solar panels. Right now, the boat is wired to run the 65 lb.
>>> > > > >> Minn
>>> > Kota I
>>> > > > >> used last season from a plug on the transom. I need to figure
>>> > > > >> out
>>> > how to
>>> > > > >> run cables and disconnects for my new system so I can easily
>>> > > > >> take
>>> > the
>>> > > > >> motor off the boat for trailering.
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> I'll be posting pictures of what I have so far in the album
>>> > "Electric
>>> > > > >> Kicker". I would love to have input, comments and advise from
>>> > > > >> those
>>> > of
>>> > > > >> you with experience.
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> Happy sailing!
>>> > > > >> ~James
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