Wednesday, January 12, 2011

Re: [Electric Boats] New To the forum and thinking of Repowering a 65 motor s...

 

No im not considering changing the prop, it doesnt make sense, I cant find a power curve for my motor, so thats out of the question... havent found a leaman user group either... no one likes them that much.... the prop can be adjusted on the hard for a different pitch setting. once the electrics are in then I can re calibrate the prop.

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, GeoMar Logistics <geomarlogistics@...> wrote:
>
> *I am not a naval architect, but I think you no more need a 48" wheel than
> you do a 1000 hp turbo diesel. If the boat does 10 knots now at a particular
> throttle setting(RPM). Check the Lehman power curve and determine the HP and
> torque produced at that RPM. Size your electric motor accordingly. I could
> be wrong, but this ain't rocket science.
> *
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:41 AM, <GNHBus@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks Nicholas,
> > Awesome video. Nothing wrong with needing to be convinced, Im the same way.
> > Im going to look into what a 48" prop, e-hybrid solution will produce on
> > this hull.
> > Best Regards
> > George
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/11/2011 8:49:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > ibles_world@... writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > It has a 30" Maxi full feathering prop on it right now, Im trying to keep
> > it, #1 because its expensive, but also because it drives to boat at 10+
> > knots, Also it allows the boat to sail sans prop drag, after all the boat is
> > a sail boat.....I will need to be convinced that the electric motors will
> > need a larger prop to do the same speed. I realize that electric motors have
> > more usable torque, but it should just make this prop function better than
> > running it with an ICE, but to answer your question I could fit a 48" prop
> > on to it If I so desired and found one...
> >
> > You can see a video of the hull, this is the previous owners ex-husband...
> > http://vimeo.com/9893480
> >
> > Nicholas
> >
> > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com <electricboats%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > GNHBus@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Nicholas, yes prop, What is the largest diameter you can fit?
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 1/11/2011 2:27:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > ibles_world@ writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Max size wheel? where? Do you mean prop? or wheel as in pulley/gear
> > around
> > > the drive shaft to drive multiple motors? Dont think you mean wheel as in
> >
> > > steering.
> > >
> > > --- In _electricboats@yahoogroups.com <_electricboats%40yahoogroups.com>_
> >
> > > (mailto:electricboats@yahoogroups.com <electricboats%40yahoogroups.com>)
> > , GNHBus@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Another question, What is the maximum size wheel you can fit ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 1/11/2011 1:02:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > ibles_world@ writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To answer your question about speed, yes 160 hp turbo - 10+ knots and I
> >
> > > did
> > > > a sea trial and received the same values and tracked and charted the
> > > boat
> > > > as it came from Anacortes, and it was a steady 8-10 knots on every leg.
> > > >
> > > > --- In __electricboats@yahoogroups.com<__electricboats%40yahoogroups.com>_
> >
> > > (mailto:_electricboats@yahoogroups.com<_electricboats%40yahoogroups.com>)
> > _
> > > > (mailto:_electricboats@yahoogroups.com<_electricboats%40yahoogroups.com>_
> >
> > > (mailto:electricboats@yahoogroups.com <electricboats%40yahoogroups.com>)
> > ) , GNHBus@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > A 160hp Diesel propels a 68000 lb vessel at 10 knots ????
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 1/10/2011 2:57:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > > james@ writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Master volt has a hybrid add on that can be added to any engine, that
> >
> > > > > might be what your looking for.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > ___
> > http://www.mastervolt.com/marine/products/hybridmaster/hybridmaster-96/___
> > > (
> > http://www.mastervolt.com/marine/products/hybridmaster/hybridmaster-96/__)
> >
> > > >
> > > (_
> > http://www.mastervolt.com/marine/products/hybridmaster/hybridmaster-96/__
> > > (
> > http://www.mastervolt.com/marine/products/hybridmaster/hybridmaster-96/_)
> > )
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > (__
> > http://www.mastervolt.com/marine/products/hybridmaster/hybridmaster-96/__
> > > (
> > http://www.mastervolt.com/marine/products/hybridmaster/hybridmaster-96/_)
> > > (_
> > http://www.mastervolt.com/marine/products/hybridmaster/hybridmaster-96/_
> > > (http://www.mastervolt.com/marine/products/hybridmaster/hybridmaster-96/)
> > )
> > > > )
> > > > >
> > > > > Out side of that the highest hp electric motor that runs at safe 48
> > > > volts
> > > > > is the Electric yacht 360i.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > ___
> > http://www.electricyacht.com/electric-yacht-products/electric-yacht-system.__
> > > (
> > http://www.electricyacht.com/electric-yacht-products/electric-yacht-system._)
> >
> > > >
> > > (_
> > http://www.electricyacht.com/electric-yacht-products/electric-yacht-system._
> > > (
> > http://www.electricyacht.com/electric-yacht-products/electric-yacht-system.)
> > )
> > > > > html_
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > (__
> > http://www.electricyacht.com/electric-yacht-products/electric-yacht-system.html__
> > > (
> > http://www.electricyacht.com/electric-yacht-products/electric-yacht-system.html_)
> >
> > > >
> > > (_
> > http://www.electricyacht.com/electric-yacht-products/electric-yacht-system.html_
> > > (
> > http://www.electricyacht.com/electric-yacht-products/electric-yacht-system.html)
> > ) )
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There are a lot of "system" diagrams on Mastervolts site for
> > different
> > > > > types of yachts.
> > > > > They seem to recommend dual pods for your size vessel.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck and ignore the wave of negative emails that are about to
> > > come
> > > > > your way.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jan 8, 2011, at 10:46 PM, "ibles_world" <ibles_world@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I purchased a 65ft Motor Sailor, Wellington Design, details can be
> > > found
> > > > > here
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > ___
> > http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatMergedDetails.jsp?boat_id=179705__
> > > (
> > http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatMergedDetails.jsp?boat_id=179705_)
> >
> > > >
> > > (_
> > http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatMergedDetails.jsp?boat_id=179705_
> > > (
> > http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatMergedDetails.jsp?boat_id=179705)
> > )
> > > > > 2&ybw=&units=Feet&currency=USD&access=Public&listing_id=60410&url=_
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > (__
> > http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatMergedDetails.jsp?boat_id=1797052&ybw=&u__
> > > (
> > http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatMergedDetails.jsp?boat_id=1797052&ybw=&u_)
> >
> > > >
> > > (_
> > http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatMergedDetails.jsp?boat_id=1797052&ybw=&u_
> > > (
> > http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatMergedDetails.jsp?boat_id=1797052&ybw=&u)
> > )
> > > > > nits=Feet&currency=USD&access=Public&listing_id=60410&url=)
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to re-power this craft with a diesel electric in-board
> > > > > system, I plan on taking the boat for extended cruising, I am
> > > budgeting
> > > > 30k for
> > > > > this modification, I would like to do it for less but if it cost more
> >
> > > I
> > > > > fully understand that this is a boatt = Bust Out Another Ten
> > Thousand.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is Powered by a 160hp Lehman turbo diesel engine presently
> > (Running
> > > > > well), 15' beam, 68000lbs displacement (With the current power plant)
> >
> > > it
> > > > > drafts at 6' with cruising gear, it has a Northern Lights 12.5kw
> > > > generator Will
> > > > > upgrade if I have to. Hydraulic pto generator uninstaller but will be
> >
> > > > > reinstalled, 1000 Gallon Diesel fuel tank, the solar panels are too
> > > old
> > > > and
> > > > > worthless to contribute any notable power. plan on replacing them
> > with
> > > > better
> > > > > larger flat panels
> > > > >
> > > > > The Boat does 10 knots on average and I would like a bit more if it
> > > wont
> > > > > matter too much. The boat has a walk around engine room, so space in
> > > not
> > > > an
> > > > > object. The current prop in a 3 blade variable pitch that I will be
> > > > keeping.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is much I probable left out of this post, so please ask.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you
> > > > >
> > > > > Nicholas
> > > > > Ible's World
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> *George Johnson
> GeoMar Logistics
> Jomtien, Chonburi
> Thailand*
>

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