Okay, but what you have done looks very cool!
V
--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, James Zagray <jzagray@...> wrote:
>
> On 1/3/11, James Zagray <jzagray@...> wrote:
> > I'll keep that in mind Victor, but at this point I haven't even
> > finished putting together what I've got!
> > ~James
> >
> > On 1/2/11, vjmtymo <vjmtymo@...> wrote:
> >> I can't recall exactly where in cyberspace I read about the model plane
> >> prop
> >> but if I come across the comment, I'll post it here. You could drop by a
> >> model RC store, pick out something to start with and entertain yourself
> >> by
> >> adapting and experimenting. Who knows, you might come up with a fresh
> >> idea
> >> or something.
> >>
> >> Victor
> >>
> >> --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, James Zagray <jzagray@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Victor,
> >>>
> >>> Any idea which specific model plane prop it is and where it can be
> >>> found?
> >>>
> >>> You have to wonder about this kind of thing. You would think that Minn
> >>> Kota
> >>> has put a lot of R & D behind their props, and I'm sure they will tell
> >>> you
> >>> that what they have supplied with the motor is the best trade-off
> >>> between
> >>> thrust and energy efficiency. If I find I need a bit more power, I'll
> >>> look
> >>> into changing the props.
> >>>
> >>> ~James
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 10:08 AM, vjmtymo <vjmtymo@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Apparently, some people have swapped out the trolling motor prop in
> >>> > favour
> >>> > of a large model airplane prop to change the pitch and give a bit more
> >>> > push.
> >>> > Just a thought.
> >>> >
> >>> > Victor
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> >>> > <electricboats%40yahoogroups.com>,
> >>> > James Zagray <jzagray@> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Thank you Ned,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Unfortunately I don't think these are going to work for me because
> >>> > > they
> >>> > are
> >>> > > not waterproof. The best solution for my application looks like a
> >>> > > plug
> >>> > and
> >>> > > receptacle. I'm leaning toward this one:
> >>> > >
> >>> > http://www.cabelas.com/auto-boat-battery-accessories-ranger-style-trolling-motor-plug-receptacle-3.shtml?type=product&WT.tsrc=CSE&WT.mc_id=GoogleBaseUSA&WT.z_mc_id1=699783&rid=40&mr:trackingCode=B203DE51-F5D2-DF11-82EF-001B21631C34&mr:referralID=NA
> >>> > > Since there are 2 wires for each motor and this is 4 prong, I should
> >>> > > be
> >>> > able
> >>> > > to wire them both through one plug.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > ~James
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Ned Farinholt <nedfarinholt@>wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > James,
> >>> > > > Here is a source for the Anderson connectors.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > http://www.solarseller.com/anderson_sb_quick_connect___disconnect_cable_connectors__accessories__stage_wiri.htm
> >>> > > > Ned
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On Dec 29, 2010, at 10:33 PM, James Zagray wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Thanks Eric!
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > I spent about half the day today searching for connectors, but
> >>> > > > didn't
> >>> > > > run accross Andersons. I'll look them up for sure. I'll have a
> >>> > > > difficult time locating them someplace dry unless they are narrow
> >>> > > > enough to fit through a small hole in the hull. I've been looking
> >>> > > > at
> >>> > > > plugs and receptacles made specifically for trolling motors, so
> >>> > > > they're water tight. I'll figure something out.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > I really appreciate the research you did on my motors. I was
> >>> > > > wondering how many amps they draw. Technical support at Minn Kota
> >>> > > > wasn't much help because the motors are'nt designed for what I am
> >>> > > > doing with them. They wouldn't suggest any kind of connector.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > I'll be interested in my watts to knots too! I would be very happy
> >>> > > > with 4 or 5 knots.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Thanks again,
> >>> > > > ~James
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On 12/29/10, Eric <ewdysar@ <ewdysar%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >>> > > > > Hi James,
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > I checked out the MinnKota website for specifics about your
> >>> > > > > setup.
> >>> > > > > It
> >>> > > > looks
> >>> > > > > like the dual motors have dual controllers and with the max
> >>> > > > > amperage
> >>> > > > listed
> >>> > > > > as 116A @ 24V, I'll assume that each motor can draw almost 60A.
> >>> > > > Therefore,
> >>> > > > > you'll ant to make sure that each disconnect is rated for at
> >>> > > > > least
> >>> > that
> >>> > > > much
> >>> > > > > current. Anderson SB connectors are what almost all EV people
> >>> > > > > use,
> >>> > they
> >>> > > > > come in 50A, 175A and 350A versions. Given your setup, I would
> >>> > > > > go
> >>> > with
> >>> > > > the
> >>> > > > > 175A ones for each motor, just to be on the safe side of things.
> >>> > These
> >>> > > > > connectors are not specifically waterproof, so you'll want to
> >>> > > > > make
> >>> > sure
> >>> > > > that
> >>> > > > > they are located in a relatively protected area. MinnKota says
> >>> > > > > that
> >>> > the
> >>> > > > > motor leads are 12 feet long so locating the connectors should
> >>> > > > > not
> >>> > > > > be
> >>> > a
> >>> > > > > problem.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > I don't know the typical efficiency of a trolling motor and prop
> >>> > setup
> >>> > > > like
> >>> > > > > you've got, however if it is close to what people are getting
> >>> > > > > with
> >>> > > > inboard
> >>> > > > > installations you can expect about 4 knots from about 1000W (42A
> >>> > > > > @
> >>> > 24V).
> >>> > > > > I'll be interested in your "watts to knots" numbers once you're
> >>> > > > > up
> >>> > and
> >>> > > > > running to compare your observed performance to other existing
> >>> > > > conversions.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Fair winds,
> >>> > > > > Eric
> >>> > > > > Marina del Rey, CA
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > --- In
> >>> > > > > electricboats@yahoogroups.com<electricboats%40yahoogroups.com><electricboats%
> >>> > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> >>> >
> >>> > > > "jameszagray" <jzagray@> wrote:
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >> Howdy! I joined your group because I am on a quest to eliminate
> >>> > > > >> the
> >>> > use
> >>> > > > >> of a gas engine as a "kicker" on my 1974 Aquarious-23 sailboat.
> >>> > > > >> I
> >>> > bought
> >>> > > > >> a Minn Kota, 24v, 160 lb. thrust, dual engine mount motor, and
> >>> > > > >> have
> >>> > just
> >>> > > > >> finished mounting it to the bottom part of an old Johnson
> >>> > > > >> outboard
> >>> > with
> >>> > > > >> the power head removed. For now, I'm going to run 2 12v deep
> >>> > > > >> cycle
> >>> > > > >> batteries wired for 24v, charged by 2 12v, 30w solar panels,
> >>> > > > >> also
> >>> > wired
> >>> > > > >> for 24v. The plan is to someday add at least 2 more batteries
> >>> > > > >> and
> >>> > > > >> 2
> >>> > more
> >>> > > > >> solar panels. Right now, the boat is wired to run the 65 lb.
> >>> > > > >> Minn
> >>> > Kota I
> >>> > > > >> used last season from a plug on the transom. I need to figure
> >>> > > > >> out
> >>> > how to
> >>> > > > >> run cables and disconnects for my new system so I can easily
> >>> > > > >> take
> >>> > the
> >>> > > > >> motor off the boat for trailering.
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >> I'll be posting pictures of what I have so far in the album
> >>> > "Electric
> >>> > > > >> Kicker". I would love to have input, comments and advise from
> >>> > > > >> those
> >>> > of
> >>> > > > >> you with experience.
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >> Happy sailing!
> >>> > > > >> ~James
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
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> >>> > > >
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> >>> > > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
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> >
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Monday, January 3, 2011
[Electric Boats] Re: Electric Kicker
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