Nothing for the consumer refit market.
They have partnered with a yacht builder:
http://www.hbmarine.com/media/download_gallery/Independence%2060%20updated%20brochure%2002%202010.pdf
You could build a system yourself if you wanted. Everything is currently available. Just need to figure out the details for your particular application.
--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, Alan Boucher <alstheone@...> wrote:
>
> On 11/6/2010 7:04 PM, sgallagher1969 wrote:
> >
> > (Sorry this got wordy)
> >
> > Greeting all first post. I'm getting a small inheritance and am
> > looking a purchasing a used sailboat. During my research I (as some of
> > you) have come to the conclusion that it's possible to basically run
> > the boat off the grid and be self-sustainable if converted to electric.
> >
> > As part of this I believe that it's possible using the
> > self-regeneration of the electric drive, instant on capability of a
> > fuel cell (w/o losing power to a starter battery on a diesel starting
> > and stopping all the time),95% efficiency of a ultra-capacitor to be
> > fuel free and off the grid. Electronic monitoring can used to
> > instantly and automatically turn on the fuel cell to supplement loads
> > or charge the capacitors/battery when necessary before they get too low.
> >
> > The biggest issue is producing power over stretches of windless
> > overcast days. Metal hydride hydrogen storage containers are safe, but
> > very expensive to store enough to even run 1kW for 8hrs. Realistically
> > 4 hours is about all before it starts to get cost prohibitive. A 900L
> > stack runs about 14L/min pure H2 Solution? Produce on board using a
> > commercial hydrogen electrolyzer for pure hydrogen (not HHO).
> >
> > The electrolyzer will never keep up with full running of the cell but
> > if a specific battery pack is filled by wind, solar, or regen you
> > should be able to keep the unit running almost 24/7. Since the cell
> > stack is typically only used to supplement heavy loads the
> > electrolyzer should be able to keep the entire system near capacity.
> >
> > Those of you who have already done the conversion what are your
> > thoughts on how big of a stack would be necessary? I really think you
> > could get away with 500w maybe even 300w if you added extra batteries.
> >
> > Now that I've had my "brilliant" epiphany, I start looking and pricing
> > out parts, and then I come to this:
> > http://www.hbmarine.com/media/download_gallery/HB%20Marine%20Overview%203Feb10b.pdf
> >
> >
> > the actual patent is here:
> > http://www.hbmarine.com/media/download_gallery/HBMarinePatent.pdf
> >
> > Only difference is they are using a fuel cell 10x bigger than the one
> > I thought was too big, and they don't include the efficiencies of
> > using an ultra-capacitor. HOW CAN YOU PATENT THIS? They are not using
> > any of their original parts. Not the fuel cell, switching is used with
> > wind & solar all the time, plenty of companies are installing electric
> > motors, water generators are already in most cruisers anyway,his only
> > original idea was to connect the electrolyzer to the ships water
> > supply.... well...duh.
> >
> > So after all that is this a challenge-able patent, and how can you
> > even patent it? To my knowledge no one has a patent on pv integration
> > of your home or boat, so how can you patent what at least to me is
> > common sense??? If they built a product that took in seawater,
> > converted it to hydrogen, stored the hydrogen and then used it to
> > produce electricity, and was in an all inclusive box..ok. But to take
> > a bunch of parts from the consumer market and patent it??????
> >
> > If you can patent "systems" like this they why can't Toyota, Ford or
> > GM patent having a fuel cell in a car? I'm not looking to go into
> > shipbuilding nor am I looking to get filthy rich, just wanted to take
> > a boat convert it, and use it as proof of concept. Then possibly go
> > into business actually doing the conversions as a way to pay for the
> > "lifestyle"
> >
> > I wonder how much of a "royalty" they want?? :(
> >
> > Anyhow thanks to all in advance for any responses.
> >
> > And just to cover my butt. Any thoughts or ideas expressed here are
> > either properties of their prospective owners or I am laying claim!
> > :)
> >
> >
> What a "unique idea" Have they reduced it to practice? Do they have a
> packaged system to sell?
>
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