I was one of those professional engineers and machine shop types and spent 40 years working with them developing products and manufacturing methods.
The really good designers were old farm boys that cobbled up from what came to hand and their prototypes were often dangerous and crude beyond belief. These are designers that never are heard from or really make the money but they are in the back yards and shops everywhere. They work and generate ideas and demands that eventually find their way into the main stream engineering.
This forum is exactly the kind of place where the new break through will be started. You may be amazed at how many manufacturers and engineers are on this list and eventually one may just take that crazy idea of yours that was kicked around here and see the gem of truth or see it as a new way of thinking about the same problem and make something work.
Look at history it is the way it has been done for years many of the original inventors died broke while someone else made the money. The problem with the tinkers and back yard mechanics is that other engineers and companies often can and will polish their ideas it to make it presentable, safe, and manufacturable before the original inventor can bring it to market.
Think William Shockley and friends both the company and inventors never really made the full potential for their work.
larry
--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <rlgravel@...> wrote:
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> Eric,
> In all honesty this has been a long, slow evolving process. I have acquired much of what I think can be used, but as a results of almost working out of the dumpster and buying some things because the price was right, my assembly requires a tandem axle trailer and I would be afraid to set a propane tank anywhere close to it.
> Doing things in a proper and professional manor will require the services of engineering professionals and machine shop services that are beyond my reach. I think you will find very few successful inventors from the backyard so to speak, that have produced a mechanical design prototype with only a very low budget, which is a fact that has been hard for me to learn.
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> As I said before, my enthusiasm is low but not because of doubts in what performance will come from this machine.
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> I believe my understanding of horsepower related to air flow and pressures, along with electric motor values of volts, amps and watts and then design sizes of A/C and heat pumps and their required power needs has given a general good guess about what is needed, but then when the time comes to put good money on the counter to pay for high dollar items that might not be exactly the right size or pressure quality, I have had to draw a line and keep building in my mind.
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> The ADD has produced the ability to come up with many options about how things can be done in different ways, which is of course the main obstruction to progress.
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> So bottom line....It's all my fault you guys have a hard time keeping your batteries charged. :))
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> Ron
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> --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Eric" <ewdysar@> wrote:
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> > I have to say that I'm with Pat on this. I recognize that there is an abundance of potential energy in the various temperature differences around a boat, but harnessing that potential energy and making it useful is the hard part. Ron, have you built any small proof-of-concept models to see what can be done with the energy? I don't believe that there is significant energy available from these areas, I'm pretty sure that others have been down this path before. But every little bit helps, and if something can be built that takes no effort or maintenance, it could add to an already efficient vessel.
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> > Fair winds,
> > Eric
> > Marina del Rey, CA
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> > --- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "greenpjs04" <greenpjs@> wrote:
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> > > Hi Ron,
> > > I must admit, I don't really understand what you are saying. I followed up until you said "at some point pressure and temperature will phase it back to liquid". That's OK, though. Like I said earlier, I am not an expert at these things. Please post back sometime if you build it and let us know how it works.
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> > > Pat
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