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My test setup using an inexpensive low power (10-30 Volt 10 amp) PWM motor controller to drive a bank of high power STP75NF75 MOSFETs looks very promising. These MOSFETs are rated 75 Volts and 80 AMPS so I plan to parallel at least 6 of them for 480 AMPS. The Battery Bank will be only 48 volts, which is sufficient for the ME0709 motor in my sailboat installation.
In my test set-up I used a 400V 70 Amp blocking diode to across the motor leads to block the reverse EMF and a 1000 ohm resistor to maintain the MOSFET gate at ground when not energized by the controller. The unloaded motor responded very well over full range of controller. Questions for electronic experts:
1. 1. Can I just simply parallel the MOSFETs on a single heat sink or do I need some resistive isolation between them on the gates?
2. 2. What else should I use to protect the MOSFETs from transients? More diodes? Zener diodes? Capacitors? Have seen various written advice
3. 3. If I assume all motor starts will be ramped up from low levels, and there will be no starting surge it does not seem that I need pre-charge capacitors found with many commercial controllers. Is this correct or am I missing something?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Art
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>Hi, Craig! 25 mm belts are popular, and big enough for the common
>electric boat motors. McMaster-Carr has a good selection of pulleys
>and hubs. I think Thunderstruck has a belt reduction unit ready
>made, using a flat timing belt. I found a thrust bearing at Glenn-L.
>Really, the only good reason I can see for using multiple vee belts
>is you can easily find replacements just about anywhere. The flat
>belts are clearly more efficient.
---
A flat belt and a timing belt, at least as I understand the
definitions, are two different things. Poly-V belts are also pretty
flat and quite different from common V belts.
Something I like about flat belts, and perhaps poly-V belts, but
unlike toothed belts, is that you can let them slip to have a clutch.
That's probably not so useful on a boat, but I could see doing a car
transmission using 99% efficient flat belts (or poly-V belts) instead
of a bunch of whirring gears in thick oil, that lose 30% of the power.
My idea would be two shafts, input and output, with a different sized
pulley set for each 'gear'. The belts would be just stiff enough to
expand into ovals that don't touch the pulleys until pushed into them
with an idler pulley for each gear.
I should think 2 or 3 sets of pulleys and belts ('gears') would make
a great electric car transmission that would go much farther (even
50%) on the same batteries than is typical. (Reverse might need an
idler on the other side from the forward couplings, even tho the
motor direction would also be reversed to go backward.)
Craig
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Of course, I meant to say "disconnect your motor controller..."
/Jason
On 2014-07-29 11:08, Jason Taylor jt.yahoo@jtaylor.ca [electricboats]
wrote:
>
> This way, you can disconnect your propulsion bank and still have your
> 12V house system connected.
--
Jason Taylor
--
S/V Fugu
1978 Beneteau First 30
Electroprop PM-20
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The reason James Lambden at Electroprop specs a two-bank switch is to
allow connecting a 48/12 DCDC converter.
The propulsion bank is connected to the common post.
The DCDC converter is connected to position 1
The main contactor and then controller hangs off position 2.
This way, you can disconnect your propulsion bank and still have your
12V house system connected.
I intend to use this setup while I'm away from the boat for running
bilge pumps, the BMS and other stuff.
The only thing I might change at this point would have been to use a DC
converter that outputs 13.7V instead of 12.4v.
That way, I could have connected it as a second battery in in my house
setup, and used an ACR to keep the regular house battery charged up.
Once fully charged, the ACR would disconnect the 12v load on the
converter and then save the propulsion bank.
Cheers,
/Jason
On 2014-07-29 09:59, Mike biankablog@verizon.net [electricboats] wrote:
> Thanks for the info on the BEP 721 batterry switch. I don't need to
> control two battery banks but, I could parallel connect the switches
> and have a 500 amp continuous rating of the switch. Way over kill for
> my system but, better to have an over rated amp capacity than
> underrated.
>
> Capt. Mike
> http://biankablog.blogspot.com
>
> On Monday, July 28, 2014 9:12 PM, "Jason Taylor jt.yahoo@jtaylor.ca
> [electricboats]" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Just checked.
> It's the BEP 721 battery switch I have.
>
> Cheers,
>
> /Jason
>
> On Jul 28, 2014, at 11:07, "Jason Taylor jt.yahoo@jtaylor.ca
> [electricboats]" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hmm, now I'm not sure what I have...
>> I'll check tonight and get back to you.
>> As for my pack, it's a 16-cell LiFePO4, so it is definitely way
>> beyond a
>> 32V max...
>> I charge to 58.4v and resting voltage is around 54.4V
>>
>> I'm just so used to everything being BlueSea as most of the
>> electrical
>> system on my boat is that -- fuse blocks, 12v battery selector,
>> various
>> switches.
>> After a bit of searching, I found this one from BEP that triggers
>> my
>> brain... It's probably this one:
>>
> http://www.iboats.com/Heavy-Duty-Battery-Selector-Switch-Marine-BEP-Marine-Marinco/dm/cart_id.119050900--session_id.919087710--view_id.341521
>> [1]
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> /Jason
>>
>> On 2014-07-28 10:18, Mike biankablog@verizon.net [electricboats]
>> wrote:
>>> Jason:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info. But, the specs for the HD switches say the
>> max
>>> voltage is 32 volts. I'm running 48 volts. What's the voltage of
>> your
>>> EP system?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 28, 2014 10:01 AM, "Jason Taylor
>> jt.yahoo@jtaylor.ca
>>> [electricboats]" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> You want the HD series of switches from Blue Seas.
>>> That's what came with my system from ElectroProp.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> http://www.bluesea.com/products/category/Manual_Battery_Switches/HD-Series
>> [2]
>>>
>>> It can handle cables up to 4/0 and 600A and is ignition
>> protected.
>>>
>>> /Jason
>>>
>>> On 2014-07-28 09:26, Mike biankablog@verizon.net [electricboats]
>>> wrote:
>>> > I'd like to install a battery isolation switch between the
>> battery
>>> > bank and the controller. I get some sparking when I disconnect
>> the
>>> > battery cables because of the electronics of the controller,
>> solar
>>> > controller and wind turbine draw power from the battery. I
>> looked
>>> at
>>> > Blue Sea battery switches but, the specs say they only
>> accommodate
>>> > wires up to 4 AWG. I have 2 AWG cables from the battery bank to
>> the
>>> > controller box. Anyone know of an on/off battery switch that
>> can
>>> > accommodate 2 AWG wires?
>>> >
>>> > Capt. Mike
>>> > BIANKA
>>> > http://biankablog.blogspot.com [3]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Links:
>>> > ------
>>> > [1]
>>> >
>>>
>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Jason Taylor
>>> --
>>> S/V Fugu
>>> 1978 Beneteau First 30
>>> Electroprop PM-20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Links:
>>> ------
>>> [1]
>>>
>>
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>>
>> --
>> Jason Taylor
>> --
>> S/V Fugu
>> 1978 Beneteau First 30
>> Electroprop PM-20
>
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1]
> http://www.iboats.com/Heavy-Duty-Battery-Selector-Switch-Marine-BEP-Marine-Marinco/dm/cart_id.119050900--session_id.919087710--view_id.341521
> [2]
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Electroprop PM-20
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Hmm, now I'm not sure what I have...
I'll check tonight and get back to you.
As for my pack, it's a 16-cell LiFePO4, so it is definitely way beyond a
32V max...
I charge to 58.4v and resting voltage is around 54.4V
I'm just so used to everything being BlueSea as most of the electrical
system on my boat is that -- fuse blocks, 12v battery selector, various
switches.
After a bit of searching, I found this one from BEP that triggers my
brain... It's probably this one:
http://www.iboats.com/Heavy-Duty-Battery-Selector-Switch-Marine-BEP-Marine-Marinco/dm/cart_id.119050900--session_id.919087710--view_id.341521
Cheers,
/Jason
On 2014-07-28 10:18, Mike biankablog@verizon.net [electricboats] wrote:
> Jason:
>
> Thanks for the info. But, the specs for the HD switches say the max
> voltage is 32 volts. I'm running 48 volts. What's the voltage of your
> EP system?
>
> Mike
>
> On Monday, July 28, 2014 10:01 AM, "Jason Taylor jt.yahoo@jtaylor.ca
> [electricboats]" <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> You want the HD series of switches from Blue Seas.
> That's what came with my system from ElectroProp.
>
>
> http://www.bluesea.com/products/category/Manual_Battery_Switches/HD-Series
>
> It can handle cables up to 4/0 and 600A and is ignition protected.
>
> /Jason
>
> On 2014-07-28 09:26, Mike biankablog@verizon.net [electricboats]
> wrote:
> > I'd like to install a battery isolation switch between the battery
> > bank and the controller. I get some sparking when I disconnect the
> > battery cables because of the electronics of the controller, solar
> > controller and wind turbine draw power from the battery. I looked
> at
> > Blue Sea battery switches but, the specs say they only accommodate
> > wires up to 4 AWG. I have 2 AWG cables from the battery bank to the
> > controller box. Anyone know of an on/off battery switch that can
> > accommodate 2 AWG wires?
> >
> > Capt. Mike
> > BIANKA
> > http://biankablog.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Links:
> > ------
> > [1]
> >
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