Sunday, February 28, 2010

Re: [Electric Boats] Fw: Friends in the DC propulsion industries.

 

Paul
 
I think that foreigners are able to make use of the American small-claims courts.
 
Maybe, being that you're on a Visa, the courts might make exception and expedite your complaint.
 
Getting used motors instead of new really sucks, but getting one new motor should show that if they were all the same price, the other 2 should've been new also.
 
John Francis
Port Clinton

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Paul Beaurain <beaurainpaul@yahoo.com> wrote:




 


From: Paul Beaurain <beaurainpaul@yahoo.com>
To: John Fiorenza <johnfiorenza@marselectricllc.com>
Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 6:24:34 AM
Subject: Friends in the DC propulsion industries.

Hi Friends,
Some of us seem to have had problems with vedours in the propulsion industry, here is a good one.
I crossed the north Atlantic to the Azores mid 2008 without a motor and then decided on DC propulsion, being South African and my Visa only good for 90 days I had to go back and forth during the transition of getting all the bits and pieces together, Because I wanted to house a diesel generator and prop motor in my engine room space wise I could not go with the ready made systems on offer and decided to go it on my own. The particular vendour I was dealing with at the time was most unhelpfull and would not deal in US credit cards but wanted cash in his bank account before he would do bussiness with me.
I then much to my regret around August 2009 ordered from John Fiorenza of MarsElectricllc three motors which arrived at the Marina where I am at, of the three one was new, two used of which one had a very bad burned commentator,bent casing and broken brush holder. John's answer after many e/m's of complaints was he will send me a new brush holder assembly which he did. I have written to him on numerous ocations that I was not happy about installing used motors in my boat when I ordered and paid for new motors. His answer to that was that his motors was very robust and if anything down the line goes faulty he will work with me, yeh like sending me used and faulty motors in the first place. He refuses to at least replace one of the two used motors and now no longer answers my mail.
Last mail I recieved from him he refuses to make good on supplying me with used motors, so my fellow boaters be carefull out there.                   
Paul Beaurain.
S/V "CINDY"
Azores.
 



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Saturday, February 27, 2010

[Electric Boats] Fw: Friends in the DC propulsion industries.

 




 


From: Paul Beaurain <beaurainpaul@yahoo.com>
To: John Fiorenza <johnfiorenza@marselectricllc.com>
Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 6:24:34 AM
Subject: Friends in the DC propulsion industries.

Hi Friends,
Some of us seem to have had problems with vedours in the propulsion industry, here is a good one.
I crossed the north Atlantic to the Azores mid 2008 without a motor and then decided on DC propulsion, being South African and my Visa only good for 90 days I had to go back and forth during the transition of getting all the bits and pieces together, Because I wanted to house a diesel generator and prop motor in my engine room space wise I could not go with the ready made systems on offer and decided to go it on my own. The particular vendour I was dealing with at the time was most unhelpfull and would not deal in US credit cards but wanted cash in his bank account before he would do bussiness with me.
I then much to my regret around August 2009 ordered from John Fiorenza of MarsElectricllc three motors which arrived at the Marina where I am at, of the three one was new, two used of which one had a very bad burned commentator,bent casing and broken brush holder. John's answer after many e/m's of complaints was he will send me a new brush holder assembly which he did. I have written to him on numerous ocations that I was not happy about installing used motors in my boat when I ordered and paid for new motors. His answer to that was that his motors was very robust and if anything down the line goes faulty he will work with me, yeh like sending me used and faulty motors in the first place. He refuses to at least replace one of the two used motors and now no longer answers my mail.
Last mail I recieved from him he refuses to make good on supplying me with used motors, so my fellow boaters be carefull out there.                   
Paul Beaurain.
S/V "CINDY"
Azores.
 



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Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Star Trek e-boat.

 

At 12:57 PM 28/02/2010, James Sizemore wrote:
>I think there is a deck on the back, it is covered but still an open
>air deck. I'm betting that walking on those glass panels at see
>on the top part will be rather slick.

If you look in the "more related coverage" link at the bottom, you
will see the open rear deck a little on pic 4 0f 7. Keeping the salt
spray build-up in check would have to have been considered, so may
have a wash-down system, but you'd think they'd have a methodology of
wash-down that limits the hazard. Then again, specialist engineers
may have missed that bit!

<snip>
>>On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 4:14 PM, danbollinger wrote:
>>Amazing design. At first glance I thought it wasnt a catamarran,
>>but a SWATH, but I was wrong. Notice too the surface piercing
>>props. It is these larger proof of concept projects that leap frog
>>a new concept forward. It makes smaller boats, even if they are
>>30-40 feet long, seem not only possible, but likely.

The hull form is incredibly like the original INCAT wave piercing
prototype (now sitting outside somewhere in Sydney, Australia) built
(I think) mid or early 1980's. That is about 25 foot, if I remember
correctly, so much smaller than this solar boat. Funny thing is, one
of the lecturers' at the Australian Maritime College had the
opportunity for his department to take ownership a couple of years
ago of that boat, but couldn't get the funding to ship it down from
Sydney. He had an ambition to cover it with a solar canopy (as range
extender) and do a high-speed daylight-only electric boat run down
the Murray River in SE Australia, charging at night stops.

Regards

[Technik] James

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Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Star Trek e-boat.

 

I think there is a deck on the back, it is covered but still an open air deck.   I'm betting that walking  on those glass panels at see on the top part will be rather slick. 


On Feb 27, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Skip von Niederinghausen wrote:

 

Notice that it has no  outdoor  deck  space...  the designer  assumes that  boating is an indoor  sport apparently!!

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 4:14 PM, danbollinger <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Amazing design. At first glance I thought it wasnt a catamarran, but a SWATH, but I was wrong. Notice too the surface piercing props. It is these larger proof of concept projects that leap frog a new concept forward. It makes smaller boats, even if they are 30-40 feet long, seem not only possible, but likely.

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, James Sizemore <james@...> wrote:
>
> For those with 24 million laying around, this is a pretty sweet all electric boat. Maybe a little to "Star Trek" for my taste.
>
> http://www.theage.com.au/technology/giant-solarpowered-boat-unveiled-20100226-p6ca.html
>




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Re: [Electric Boats] Re: Star Trek e-boat.

 

Notice that it has no  outdoor  deck  space...  the designer  assumes that  boating is an indoor  sport apparently!!

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 4:14 PM, danbollinger <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Amazing design. At first glance I thought it wasnt a catamarran, but a SWATH, but I was wrong. Notice too the surface piercing props. It is these larger proof of concept projects that leap frog a new concept forward. It makes smaller boats, even if they are 30-40 feet long, seem not only possible, but likely.

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, James Sizemore <james@...> wrote:
>
> For those with 24 million laying around, this is a pretty sweet all electric boat. Maybe a little to "Star Trek" for my taste.
>
> http://www.theage.com.au/technology/giant-solarpowered-boat-unveiled-20100226-p6ca.html
>


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[Electric Boats] Re: Star Trek e-boat.

 

Amazing design. At first glance I thought it wasnt a catamarran, but a SWATH, but I was wrong. Notice too the surface piercing props. It is these larger proof of concept projects that leap frog a new concept forward. It makes smaller boats, even if they are 30-40 feet long, seem not only possible, but likely.

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, James Sizemore <james@...> wrote:
>
> For those with 24 million laying around, this is a pretty sweet all electric boat. Maybe a little to "Star Trek" for my taste.
>
> http://www.theage.com.au/technology/giant-solarpowered-boat-unveiled-20100226-p6ca.html
>

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[Electric Boats] Re: Star Trek e-boat.

 

A little smaller version with the same purpose:
www.solarwave.at

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, James Sizemore <james@...> wrote:
>
> For those with 24 million laying around, this is a pretty sweet all electric boat. Maybe a little to "Star Trek" for my taste.
>
> http://www.theage.com.au/technology/giant-solarpowered-boat-unveiled-20100226-p6ca.html
>

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