Monday, September 9, 2013

RE: Re: [Electric Boats] PAKTRAKR question

 

Dimonic,

I uploaded everything.  If it can't be done, I still appreciate the help.  Sorry, but I'm a bit helpless when it comes to this stuff, basic electricity is OK, but anything beyond that starts to make my head hurt. 

You'd never guess my dad was a top-notch computer programmer. 

Richard 



--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Ok, so from the information supplied, getting a direct display of the information is pretty simple. Making valid NMEA sentences is easy enough. The question I would have is whether your chart plotter will make any sense of them.

I would think the "Engine Room" (ER) monitoring system talker ID would be appropriate for battery monitoring. However, many systems don't use or respect those codes. Will yours display this information?

It would also be possible to use the Raspberry Pi to directly display the data on a screen of its own, or to export the data via a web server (over WiFi) - so you could view it on screen in a browser such as a phone or a tablet.

I note that there is also an Android app (called PakTrakr) which will act as a monitor for PakTrakr systems. It requires you buy a serial/bluetooth dongle and make a small (soldering) adjustment, and will allow you to display your abttery information on your android device.



--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Nick" <chernikit@...> wrote:
>
> Paktrakr seems to be hors de combat at present.
>
>
>
> http://www.cloudelectric.com/category-s/7966.htm
>
>
>
> Maybe not the best time to invest in new gear unless pretty cheap.
>
>
>
> - Nick
>
>
>
> From: electricboats@yahoogroups.com [mailto:electricboats@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rwsandersii@...
> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 11:40 AM
> To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Electric Boats] PAKTRAKR question
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I did get my electrically powered Compac 27 launched and I'll post a brief summary soon (I keep hoping Yahoo will switch back to the previous format, I hate the way things show in the web version right now, we don't even get our own picture on the front page, right now it is a guy on a mountain bike).
>
> Anyway, my PAKTRAKR display is dead. The remote seems to be running correctly as it is still flashing in the proper sequence. I would guess the displays weren't set up for outside use as it appears they were originally intended for electric cars.
>
> Before I go buy an entire setup (some guy in Europe has some for sale), I was wondering if anyone here knows if there is a "black box" that I could use to convert the PAKTRAKR output to a NMEA protocol that could be displayed on my Standard Horizon 390i chartplotter.
>
> This would have to be a plug and play set up as I'm not knowledgeable enough to program anything to do this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard
>

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RE: Re: [Electric Boats] PAKTRAKR question

 

Dimonic,

I'm not a smart phone user.  The only reason I'm trying to get this into my chart plotter is that I'm trying to eliminate as many sensitive devices as possible.  

I appreciate the help, but if it can't go to the plotter, it would be easier for me to buy a new display (a system would cost about the same as a smartphone anyway). 

I'm adding the installation guide that has the description of the cables used. I'm also going to add some of the guides for my plotter in the same folder. 

Thanks again,

RIchard

 


--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Ok, so from the information supplied, getting a direct display of the information is pretty simple. Making valid NMEA sentences is easy enough. The question I would have is whether your chart plotter will make any sense of them.

I would think the "Engine Room" (ER) monitoring system talker ID would be appropriate for battery monitoring. However, many systems don't use or respect those codes. Will yours display this information?

It would also be possible to use the Raspberry Pi to directly display the data on a screen of its own, or to export the data via a web server (over WiFi) - so you could view it on screen in a browser such as a phone or a tablet.

I note that there is also an Android app (called PakTrakr) which will act as a monitor for PakTrakr systems. It requires you buy a serial/bluetooth dongle and make a small (soldering) adjustment, and will allow you to display your abttery information on your android device.



--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Nick" <chernikit@...> wrote:
>
> Paktrakr seems to be hors de combat at present.
>
>
>
> http://www.cloudelectric.com/category-s/7966.htm
>
>
>
> Maybe not the best time to invest in new gear unless pretty cheap.
>
>
>
> - Nick
>
>
>
> From: electricboats@yahoogroups.com [mailto:electricboats@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rwsandersii@...
> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 11:40 AM
> To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Electric Boats] PAKTRAKR question
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I did get my electrically powered Compac 27 launched and I'll post a brief summary soon (I keep hoping Yahoo will switch back to the previous format, I hate the way things show in the web version right now, we don't even get our own picture on the front page, right now it is a guy on a mountain bike).
>
> Anyway, my PAKTRAKR display is dead. The remote seems to be running correctly as it is still flashing in the proper sequence. I would guess the displays weren't set up for outside use as it appears they were originally intended for electric cars.
>
> Before I go buy an entire setup (some guy in Europe has some for sale), I was wondering if anyone here knows if there is a "black box" that I could use to convert the PAKTRAKR output to a NMEA protocol that could be displayed on my Standard Horizon 390i chartplotter.
>
> This would have to be a plug and play set up as I'm not knowledgeable enough to program anything to do this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard
>

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RE: Re: [Electric Boats] PAKTRAKR question

 

 Darryl,

I also created a folder under files for PakTrakr stuff.  I'm uploading everything I have. 

Richard

 



--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, <electricboats@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

The PakTrakr is no longer in production. That stopped at least a year
ago. Econogics was a distributor. I have an odds and ends box
remaining and one full system for lead-acid installed in one of my
electric cars (now in storage as we are driving a Nissan Leaf).

I also have a pretty complete set of the documentation for the PakTrakr.
If there is interest, I can put that up on the Econogics website for
reference purposes and support those that may still be using the units
(as I am - still have one on my electric tractor).

Darryl McMahon
Econogics

On 09/09/2013 5:22 AM, electricboats@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Re: PAKTRAKR question
> Posted by: "Nick"chernikit@... qgold77
> Date: Sun Sep 8, 2013 7:05 pm ((PDT))
>
> Paktrakr seems to be hors de combat at present.
>
>
>
> http://www.cloudelectric.com/category-s/7966.htm
>
>
>
> Maybe not the best time to invest in new gear unless pretty cheap.

--
Darryl McMahon
Econogics

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Re: [Electric Boats] electric sternwheeler

 

Just a thought....

One of the FEW actual paddlewheel boats that I've seen used a hydraulic engine to turn the wheel (slow, very efficient, very simple - worked great).  I don't know any other details, but it was a great concept.  You could still use electric power for the hydraulic pumps...

Good luck!


From: "elwelldon@yahoo.com" <elwelldon@yahoo.com>
To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 7:49 AM
Subject: [Electric Boats] electric sternwheeler

 
Greetings everyone.  We're in the process of building a moderately large sternwheel pontoon houseboat here on the Chesapeake.  I would love to get some motor/controller suggestions from the group.  At the moment, we're contemplating using a winch or industrial fork lift motor a la http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdSJ8LXqPp8 .  Since hull speed on this thing would only be around 5kt and planing is not an option, a great deal of power would only be wasted.  Ideas?  Suggestions?

Don


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Re: [Electric Boats] PAKTRAKR question

 

The PakTrakr is no longer in production. That stopped at least a year
ago. Econogics was a distributor. I have an odds and ends box
remaining and one full system for lead-acid installed in one of my
electric cars (now in storage as we are driving a Nissan Leaf).

I also have a pretty complete set of the documentation for the PakTrakr.
If there is interest, I can put that up on the Econogics website for
reference purposes and support those that may still be using the units
(as I am - still have one on my electric tractor).

Darryl McMahon
Econogics

On 09/09/2013 5:22 AM, electricboats@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Re: PAKTRAKR question
> Posted by: "Nick"chernikit@gmail.com qgold77
> Date: Sun Sep 8, 2013 7:05 pm ((PDT))
>
> Paktrakr seems to be hors de combat at present.
>
>
>
> http://www.cloudelectric.com/category-s/7966.htm
>
>
>
> Maybe not the best time to invest in new gear unless pretty cheap.

--
Darryl McMahon
Econogics

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Re: [Electric Boats] PAKTRAKR question

 

Ok, so from the information supplied, getting a direct display of the information is pretty simple. Making valid NMEA sentences is easy enough. The question I would have is whether your chart plotter will make any sense of them.

I would think the "Engine Room" (ER) monitoring system talker ID would be appropriate for battery monitoring. However, many systems don't use or respect those codes. Will yours display this information?

It would also be possible to use the Raspberry Pi to directly display the data on a screen of its own, or to export the data via a web server (over WiFi) - so you could view it on screen in a browser such as a phone or a tablet.

I note that there is also an Android app (called PakTrakr) which will act as a monitor for PakTrakr systems. It requires you buy a serial/bluetooth dongle and make a small (soldering) adjustment, and will allow you to display your abttery information on your android device.

--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, "Nick" <chernikit@...> wrote:
>
> Paktrakr seems to be hors de combat at present.
>
>
>
> http://www.cloudelectric.com/category-s/7966.htm
>
>
>
> Maybe not the best time to invest in new gear unless pretty cheap.
>
>
>
> - Nick
>
>
>
> From: electricboats@yahoogroups.com [mailto:electricboats@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rwsandersii@...
> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 11:40 AM
> To: electricboats@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Electric Boats] PAKTRAKR question
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I did get my electrically powered Compac 27 launched and I'll post a brief summary soon (I keep hoping Yahoo will switch back to the previous format, I hate the way things show in the web version right now, we don't even get our own picture on the front page, right now it is a guy on a mountain bike).
>
> Anyway, my PAKTRAKR display is dead. The remote seems to be running correctly as it is still flashing in the proper sequence. I would guess the displays weren't set up for outside use as it appears they were originally intended for electric cars.
>
> Before I go buy an entire setup (some guy in Europe has some for sale), I was wondering if anyone here knows if there is a "black box" that I could use to convert the PAKTRAKR output to a NMEA protocol that could be displayed on my Standard Horizon 390i chartplotter.
>
> This would have to be a plug and play set up as I'm not knowledgeable enough to program anything to do this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard
>

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[Electric Boats] electric sternwheeler

 

Greetings everyone.  We're in the process of building a moderately large sternwheel pontoon houseboat here on the Chesapeake.  I would love to get some motor/controller suggestions from the group.  At the moment, we're contemplating using a winch or industrial fork lift motor a la http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdSJ8LXqPp8 .  Since hull speed on this thing would only be around 5kt and planing is not an option, a great deal of power would only be wasted.  Ideas?  Suggestions?


Don

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