Monday, September 2, 2013

Re: [Electric Boats] RE: Anyone selling an electric propulsion setup cheap?

 



I had the same simple question and was reluctant to voice it. Personally, I can think of lots of reasons to go electric, but replacing an old A4 that the boat is already set up for with something completely different isn't one of them. And I seriously doubt that replacing an old A4 with a completely different propulsion system would save money. It's likely to be a much larger project.   
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Now my simple question is why not just replace the A4 as you can usually find good working unit for around $800-$1000 or  just do a used 7hp outboard for even less.  I find it difficult to get my thinking around the idea of putting something that may be inadequate because it is cheap.  When boating I first look at safety and then reasonable cost.  The idea of putting in a "cheap" but less than adequate and therefore less safe system is not what I would want to do on any boat.  As a vendor I cannot in good conscience and in a society that is litigious sell products that may not provide adequate service to my client.  But as a boater, I am truly at a loss to want to put something in my boat that is less than adequate.  I have seen too many boats that cannot reach more than 60% of hull speed.  In a poor sea state, the boater would be at peril.

Mike Electric Yacht of Southern California



--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, <sweeney.dillon@...> wrote:

Jason, that may have been me. I posted a 6.7kw D&D electric motor that I removed from a 24' boat with all the supporting parts (controller/converter/charger/gauges/cradle/shaft coupler/batteries etc) but as it happens it all was sold just last week. 

Paul
On 2013-09-01, at 8:20 PM, Jason Taylor <jt.yahoo@...> wrote:

 

Earlier this summer, someone on this list was selling an electric conversion they no longer needed, and this at a very good price, batteries included. I was unable to jump on it at the time.
Today, a friend called me in a bind. His atomic4 has thrown a rod and he is looking to rip it out and convert. But, he's even more of a cheap bastard than I am. I'm pretty sure he can source some batteries locally, but the drive system is what's lacking.

The boat is a Paceship 29 (C&C 29-1 hull).
The sailing conditions are May-October, on a freshwater lake in the st. Lawrence river. Some current, sometimes. He is very capable of making-do and changing his plans according to conditions of weather and boat.

So, a 3-5kW direct-drive would likely suit him fine. I'm going to point him at the smaller Thunderstruck sailboat kit if nothing pops up in eastern Canada or the NE states.

So how about it? Anyone sitting on an uninstalled conversion collecting dust? Now's your chance to pass the dream off to someone else!

Cheers,

/Jason


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[Electric Boats] RE: Anyone selling an electric propulsion setup cheap?

 

I have a SolidNav that has never been installed - took it in trade on an upgraded Electric Yacht system.  It would push the 6500 pound Paceship 29 with authority.  We are in Southern California. Contact me at my website www.electricyachtssocal.com

Now my simple question is why not just replace the A4 as you can usually find good working unit for around $800-$1000 or  just do a used 7hp outboard for even less.  I find it difficult to get my thinking around the idea of putting something that may be inadequate because it is cheap.  When boating I first look at safety and then reasonable cost.  The idea of putting in a "cheap" but less than adequate and therefore less safe system is not what I would want to do on any boat.  As a vendor I cannot in good conscience and in a society that is litigious sell products that may not provide adequate service to my client.  But as a boater, I am truly at a loss to want to put something in my boat that is less than adequate.  I have seen too many boats that cannot reach more than 60% of hull speed.  In a poor sea state, the boater would be at peril.

Mike Electric Yacht of Southern California



--- In electricboats@yahoogroups.com, <sweeney.dillon@...> wrote:

Jason, that may have been me. I posted a 6.7kw D&D electric motor that I removed from a 24' boat with all the supporting parts (controller/converter/charger/gauges/cradle/shaft coupler/batteries etc) but as it happens it all was sold just last week. 

Paul
On 2013-09-01, at 8:20 PM, Jason Taylor <jt.yahoo@...> wrote:

 

Earlier this summer, someone on this list was selling an electric conversion they no longer needed, and this at a very good price, batteries included. I was unable to jump on it at the time.
Today, a friend called me in a bind. His atomic4 has thrown a rod and he is looking to rip it out and convert. But, he's even more of a cheap bastard than I am. I'm pretty sure he can source some batteries locally, but the drive system is what's lacking.

The boat is a Paceship 29 (C&C 29-1 hull).
The sailing conditions are May-October, on a freshwater lake in the st. Lawrence river. Some current, sometimes. He is very capable of making-do and changing his plans according to conditions of weather and boat.

So, a 3-5kW direct-drive would likely suit him fine. I'm going to point him at the smaller Thunderstruck sailboat kit if nothing pops up in eastern Canada or the NE states.

So how about it? Anyone sitting on an uninstalled conversion collecting dust? Now's your chance to pass the dream off to someone else!

Cheers,

/Jason


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Re: [Electric Boats] Anyone selling an electric propulsion setup cheap?

 

Jason, that may have been me. I posted a 6.7kw D&D electric motor that I removed from a 24' boat with all the supporting parts (controller/converter/charger/gauges/cradle/shaft coupler/batteries etc) but as it happens it all was sold just last week. 


Paul
On 2013-09-01, at 8:20 PM, Jason Taylor <jt.yahoo@jtaylor.ca> wrote:

 

Earlier this summer, someone on this list was selling an electric conversion they no longer needed, and this at a very good price, batteries included. I was unable to jump on it at the time.
Today, a friend called me in a bind. His atomic4 has thrown a rod and he is looking to rip it out and convert. But, he's even more of a cheap bastard than I am. I'm pretty sure he can source some batteries locally, but the drive system is what's lacking.

The boat is a Paceship 29 (C&C 29-1 hull).
The sailing conditions are May-October, on a freshwater lake in the st. Lawrence river. Some current, sometimes. He is very capable of making-do and changing his plans according to conditions of weather and boat.

So, a 3-5kW direct-drive would likely suit him fine. I'm going to point him at the smaller Thunderstruck sailboat kit if nothing pops up in eastern Canada or the NE states.

So how about it? Anyone sitting on an uninstalled conversion collecting dust? Now's your chance to pass the dream off to someone else!

Cheers,

/Jason


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[Electric Boats] Re: Anyone selling an electric propulsion setup cheap?

 

Jason, that may have been me. I removed a 6.7 kw D&D electric motor from the 24' boat I purchased last fall with all the supporting parts (charger/converter/controller/gauges/cradle/batteries/coupler etc.) and posted here. Although I live about 3-4 hours away from your friend I sold the system just last week so it is no longer available. 


Paul

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Sunday, September 1, 2013

[Electric Boats] Anyone selling an electric propulsion setup cheap?

 

Earlier this summer, someone on this list was selling an electric conversion they no longer needed, and this at a very good price, batteries included. I was unable to jump on it at the time.
Today, a friend called me in a bind. His atomic4 has thrown a rod and he is looking to rip it out and convert. But, he's even more of a cheap bastard than I am. I'm pretty sure he can source some batteries locally, but the drive system is what's lacking.

The boat is a Paceship 29 (C&C 29-1 hull).
The sailing conditions are May-October, on a freshwater lake in the st. Lawrence river. Some current, sometimes. He is very capable of making-do and changing his plans according to conditions of weather and boat.

So, a 3-5kW direct-drive would likely suit him fine. I'm going to point him at the smaller Thunderstruck sailboat kit if nothing pops up in eastern Canada or the NE states.

So how about it? Anyone sitting on an uninstalled conversion collecting dust? Now's your chance to pass the dream off to someone else!

Cheers,

/Jason

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Saturday, August 31, 2013

[Electric Boats] Battery selection

 

I recently purchased a nice 14 ' English built fiberglass sailboat weighing perhaps 300 lb. and a 50 lb. thrust Minnkota trolling motor. Please comment on having 2 smaller marine batteries as opposed to 1 larger battery.  Also, I am seeing references to Group 34 batteries and Group 27 batteries.  What does "Group" mean? Also, I would appreciate comments about the Optima blue top line of batteries. I am not going to be sailing the boat but rather puttering around on the small lakes here in central Colorado. Most of the lakes here are reservoirs for all kinds of uses, including drinking water, so most prohibit gasoline outboard motors.   Thanks,  Dell

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Friday, August 30, 2013

[Electric Boats] Hello and Greetings

 

Greetings everyone.
I have been on the list here for a week or so just lurking and trying to absorb. I have a 1960 30' Alden sailboat who's aging and unreliable Atomic 4 just died. Instead of rebuilding it yet again I have decided to re-power using electric. I am leaning toward the Thunderstuck sailboat package with the 2:1 gear reduction.
If anyone has any questions comments or input feel free to let me know.
I am currently just now ripping the old engine out and I want to get the interior painted before I start putting in batteries and the motor, so I have until next spring to get everything figured out.
Thanks for the great forum to learn from others and the knowledge others have posted after so much hard work....
I look forward to learning much more from all of you...
Bryan

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